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    Quote Originally Posted by Zicky View Post
    Thank you so much Doctor Seow!

    Looks like i will need to start becoming some digital artist alongside now as well haha


    With regards
    Zicky!

    I am afraid I have to disappoint you here.

    I forgot how difficult & confusing in the past to try & work it out the Curetis species.


    Firstly your observation here.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/133060718

    It is a female from the large labial palps, rounded HW slightly hooked FW apex.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...2027/large.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...2082/large.jpg

    Compare with males C. santana.
    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-t9119-E8A...S_adult_05.jpg
    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-t9119-E8A...S_adult_05.jpg


    No male Curetis species in our area have the HW orange reduced to a band.
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc3/84050010.html
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc3/84030010.html
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc3/84070001.html
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc3/84110010.html


    The female C. santana is so rare no proper observation found.
    Below is image from Bornean Lycaenid.
    AA2.PNG


    The underside markings .HW postdiscal spots 6 & 7 in line & submarginal spots 6 & 7 out of line is also that of C. santana
    This shows that your observation is actually a Female Curetis santana.

    Compare Female C. saronis.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...975/large.jpeg

    Unknown female with an irregular HW band.
    This looks to be the female C. tagalica.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/131688085
    Compare Female tagalica from Bornean lycaenid.
    Attachment 27950


    Other observations.
    C. santana.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/74695451
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/7331669
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/90629654


    Possibly C. bulis.
    FW with a narrower patch ;HW with a longer black bar basally extending beyond the origin of vein 6 & 7.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/6911941
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/98755895
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/95371774



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    Last edited by Psyche; 03-Sep-2022 at 07:54 PM.

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    Female C. tagalica from Bornean Lycaenid.
    AAGA.PNG

    The irregular HW band seem to match.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/131688085

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    Not one bit disappointed doctor Seow!

    Its more remarkable that theres so much diversity waiting for me to explore in such a small country,and i suppose a female curetis is a amazing shot for me as a mobile photography

    I reupdated my inat link as some of my photos are bugged apparently- https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/133443496

    Still greatly appreciate all the explanation i have receive! Until i can ID them i guess i will have to shoot non stop!

    Regards
    Zicky
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    Dear Doctor Seow,
    i am more confident of todays ID, so feel free to correct any errors! Uploaded inat links as some photo doesnt hold up to quality once resize on computer

    1 - P.mathias?
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/133755537
    pelopidus1.jpg

    2 - P.omaha?A bit like P.trachala but the vibes are off i'll say
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/133755547
    potanthus1.1.jpgpotanthus1.2.jpg

    3 - P.serina? unfortunately all the shots are awkward angle
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/133755552
    potanthus 2.1.jpg

    4 - P.serina? i do note the abdominal band is black
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/133755575
    potanthus3.1.jpg

    5 - P.lubricans?
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/133755554
    p.lubricans.jpgpolytremis lubricans.jpg

    6 - Telicota colon? only have inat link because the file resize quality cannot cut it for this one!
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/133755530

    with skipping regards
    Zicky
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    Post 74.
    1. Female P. mathias. Note dirty greyish brown underside.

    2 P. omaha male, yellow abdominal end; FW spot 4 & 5 overlap other. spots not spiky.
    Male. P. trachala.
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kvlAhJLLsd...la-tytleri.jpg

    3. P. omaha male. Abdominal end is yellow; FW spots 4 & 5 equal.


    4. Looks correct as female P. serina;abdominal end dark; FWspot 4 looks larger than 5.
    P. serina females.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...0289/large.jpg
    https://static.inaturalist.org/photo...897/large.jpeg


    5. Polytremis lubricans male. Antenna end tinged orange, club with a black band' FW spots yellower.


    6. Male Telicota colon
    Fairly typical, with FW spots staggered out.



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    Hi Doctor Seow,

    i ID the first skipper this as a oriens gola but got mentioned that it probably isnt a oriens gola, judging by the forewing placement and all i assume is a telicota species. I would like some help please! At the rate of skipper ID is going, i suppose my late night alcohol sessions shall include some skipper learning! I suppose the second one is a potanthus?

    1 - inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/133908153
    UFO1.1.jpg

    2- i am not so sure about this dart
    some other dart.jpg

    skipping regards
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    Post 76.

    1. Potanthus trachala.Female.


    2. Typical male P. trachala.

    Only Potanthus have a large cspot 7 on the HW.
    The female is slightly aberrant on the FW.
    The male is typical.

    Male & female.
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kvlAhJLLsd...la-tytleri.jpg
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check..._female_01.jpg

    Oriens gola female.
    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-_Lk9a1XdR..._Caijin_01.jpg


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    Last edited by Psyche; 07-Sep-2022 at 02:36 AM.

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    Dear Doctor Seow

    some ID i require confirmation!

    1 - Caltoris Cormasa
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/134144464
    caltoris 1.1.jpgcaltoris 1.2.jpg

    2 - Pontanthus serina?
    inat - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/134144482
    potanthus1.1.jpgpotanthus1.2.jpg

    Regards!
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    Post 78.
    Both are correct.

    1. Caltoris cormasa. Reddish colouration & small spots.
    2. Potanthus serina FW spot 5smaller than spot 4.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyche View Post
    Post 78.
    Both are correct.

    1. Caltoris cormasa. Reddish colouration & small spots.
    2. Potanthus serina FW spot 5smaller than spot 4.



    TL Seow:Cheers.
    Thank You Doctor Seow!

    Zicky
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