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    Let me reupload! Sorry for the inconvenience
    1 - Skipper 1.jpg
    Is this a lesser dart? Pothantus Omaha

    2 - Skipper 3.jpg
    Detached dart?

    3-Skipper 4.jpg
    Contigious swift?

    4 - Skipper 5.jpg
    I suppose this is small branded swift, pelopidus mathias?

    -This skipper is very big in size, about one and a half section of a thumb
    5-Skipper 6.jpg
    I thought this is a conjoined swift but i am not sure

    6 - Skipper 7.jpg
    Also not sure about this fella

    Appreciate all the help i can get!

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    1. Potanthus omaha.male.
    Veins all darken, dull colour.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...838/large.jpeg

    Unusually the abdominal end appear to have a black band, but it will not match any of the black-banded species.
    P. mingo, P. trachala, & P. serina.
    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-f3wB2A2ujB...0/_MG_1531.jpg
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kvlAhJLLsd...la-tytleri.jpg
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...ult_male_c.jpg

    2. Potanthus trachala.
    FW spots well separated; HW band upper spot projected out; heavy black spots.


    3. Caltoris cormasa male.
    Typical spots.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HYiGh0gEIE...0/DSC_0126.JPG


    4.Pelopidas mathias male.

    P. mathias dirty ,grey shaded.
    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NQjrfm7_w...enedict_01.jpg

    P. agna; clean brownish.
    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Hw681ALm5F...ded+Swift+.jpg


    5. Pelopidas conjunctus female.
    Large; FW spots yellowish; HW spots whitish.
    Females.
    https://www.jamiun.com/wp-content/up...rksmallWEB.jpg
    https://www.thaibutterflies.com/wp-c...s-1080x675.jpg


    6. Taractrocera archias.male.
    Antennal club rounded; HW band joined by a combined spots 6 & 7.
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Vy41EYp6Y...sDart-KSK2.jpg


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    Thank you Doctor Seow!

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    Hi doctor Seow,

    Another skipper trend as again! Here are some shot at upper seletar today

    1 - skipper 1.jpg
    i believe this is a Taractrocera archias?

    2 - skipper 2.jpg
    Also another Taractrocera archias?

    3 - skipper 3.jpg
    Telicota species?

    4 - skipper 4.jpgskipper 4.jpg
    A open wing shot, is it possible to ID?

    5 - skipper 5.jpg
    Another telicota species?

    Thanks in advance!

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    1 & 2 Taractroceras archias. males.
    Note rounded antennal clubs & HW band.

    3. Female Telicota besta.
    HW veins across band darken; dull colour.
    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-OEM0FaXJU..._female_01.jpg

    4. Female Potanthus omaha.
    Veins are strongly dark; dull ochreous.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...231/large.jpeg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...433/large.jpeg

    Compare P. ganda females; veins are not or barely darken.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...083/large.jpeg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...069/large.jpeg


    5. Female Potanthus serina.
    Note HW large spot 7 (Telicota have no HW spot 7.)

    P. serina; Veins not darken; FW spot 5 smaller than spot 4; Abdominal end with black band. Correction: P. mingo.
    Females.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...9410/large.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...4101/large.jpg



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    Last edited by Psyche; 07-Aug-2022 at 08:19 AM.

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    Hi Doctor Seow,

    A quick follow up on skipper 5, the Potanthus serina. I didnt expect the Potanthus serina to be this small, for a size comparision, the flower it is feeding on in the picture is a single flower of a leea indica. Are their size variable? Was expecting it to be much bigger for it to be name the large dart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zicky View Post
    Hi Doctor Seow,

    A quick follow up on skipper 5, the Potanthus serina. I didnt expect the Potanthus serina to be this small, for a size comparision, the flower it is feeding on in the picture is a single flower of a leea indica. Are their size variable? Was expecting it to be much bigger for it to be name the large dart.

    Regards
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    It is possible for an individual to be larger or smaller than the norm for the species.

    For this individual, the shape suggest a small species.

    There is a prominent black band at the abdominal end.
    There are 3 full subapical spots.
    FW spot 5 is smaller than spot 4.

    Only 4 species in Singapore have a black banded abdominal end.

    1. Potanthus trachala. FW 14 - 15 mm.
    FW spots widely separated ,spiky.
    Male & female.
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kvlAhJLLsd...la-tytleri.jpg
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check..._female_01.jpg


    2. Potanthus serina. FW 16 -17 mm.
    FW with spot 5 smaller than spot 4.
    Male & female.
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8lpB_kJwF0...tanthus-sp.jpg
    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/_rzo8wjfyC...t_female_c.jpg


    3. Potanthus juno. FW 13 -14 mm.
    FW spot 5 smaller than spot 4.
    FW subapical spots only two, ie spot 6 & 7, spot 8 absent or vestigial.
    Female.
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WroJpPq0U...Dart-KohCH.jpg


    4. Potanthus mingo. FW 12- 13 mm.
    FW with 3 subapical spots.
    FW spot 4 & 5 about equal.
    Female on the left.
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-tFtROXZYi...us%2Bmingo.JPG


    It is probably Potanthus mingo female.

    I suggest for Potanthus, show at least two images as small details matter.



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    Hi doctor Seow,

    i took your advice and took a few extra shots, which i only got about 2 before the butts flew off

    1 - skipper 1.1.jpgskipper 1.2.jpg
    Is this a telicota species?

    2 - skipper 2.1.jpgskipper 2.2.jpg
    My initial guess is a baoris species, but i think i could be wrong on this one

    3 - skipper 3.1.jpgskipper 3.2.jpgskipper 3.3.jpg
    Here i dont have a sharp shot of the head, but hope it still allows ID

    4 - lascar again.jpglascar LOL.jpg
    Here i go out of character and require help with lascar. I dont think it is a Lasippa tiga or Lasippa heliodore since forewing cellular bar is missing.

    Thanks in advance!
    Zick
    Last edited by Zicky; 08-Aug-2022 at 12:31 AM.
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    Hi doctor Seow,

    i took your advice and took a few extra shots, which i only got about 2 before the butts flew off

    1 - skipper 1.1.jpgskipper 1.2.jpg
    Is this a telicota species?

    2 - skipper 2.1.jpgskipper 2.2.jpg
    My initial guess is a baoris species, but i think i could be wrong on this one

    3 - skipper 3.1.jpgskipper 3.2.jpgskipper 3.3.jpg
    Here i dont have a sharp shot of the head, but hope it still allows ID

    4 - lascar again.jpglascar LOL.jpg
    Here i go out of character and require help with lascar. I dont think it is a Lasippa tiga or Lasippa heliodore since forewing cellular bar is missing.

    Thanks in advance!
    Zick
    Zick Soh

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