Skipper ID request

[Psyche]

Hi Doctor Seow,

A quick follow up on skipper 5, the Potanthus serina. I didnt expect the Potanthus serina to be this small, for a size comparision, the flower it is feeding on in the picture is a single flower of a leea indica. Are their size variable? Was expecting it to be much bigger for it to be name the large dart.

Regards
Zick

It is possible for an individual to be larger or smaller than the norm for the species.

For this individual, the shape suggest a small species.

There is a prominent black band at the abdominal end.
There are 3 full subapical spots.
FW spot 5 is smaller than spot 4.

Only 4 species in Singapore have a black banded abdominal end.

1. Potanthus trachala. FW 14 - 15 mm.
FW spots widely separated ,spiky.
Male & female.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kvlAhJLLsd...la-tytleri.jpg
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check..._female_01.jpg


2. Potanthus serina. FW 16 -17 mm.
FW with spot 5 smaller than spot 4.
Male & female.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8lpB_kJwF0...tanthus-sp.jpg
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/_rzo8wjfyC...t_female_c.jpg


3. Potanthus juno. FW 13 -14 mm.
FW spot 5 smaller than spot 4.
FW subapical spots only two, ie spot 6 & 7, spot 8 absent or vestigial.
Female.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WroJpPq0U...Dart-KohCH.jpg


4. Potanthus mingo. FW 12- 13 mm.
FW with 3 subapical spots.
FW spot 4 & 5 about equal.
Female on the left.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-tFtROXZYi...us%2Bmingo.JPG


It is probably Potanthus mingo female.

I suggest for Potanthus, show at least two images as small details matter.



TL Seow :Cheers.

[Zicky]

Hi doctor Seow,

i took your advice and took a few extra shots, which i only got about 2 before the butts flew off

1 - skipper 1.1.jpgskipper 1.2.jpg
Is this a telicota species?

2 - skipper 2.1.jpgskipper 2.2.jpg
My initial guess is a baoris species, but i think i could be wrong on this one

3 - skipper 3.1.jpgskipper 3.2.jpgskipper 3.3.jpg
Here i dont have a sharp shot of the head, but hope it still allows ID

4 - lascar again.jpglascar LOL.jpg
Here i go out of character and require help with lascar. I dont think it is a Lasippa tiga or Lasippa heliodore since forewing cellular bar is missing.

Thanks in advance!
Zick

[Zicky]

Hi doctor Seow,

i took your advice and took a few extra shots, which i only got about 2 before the butts flew off

1 - skipper 1.1.jpgskipper 1.2.jpg
Is this a telicota species?

2 - skipper 2.1.jpgskipper 2.2.jpg
My initial guess is a baoris species, but i think i could be wrong on this one

3 - skipper 3.1.jpgskipper 3.2.jpgskipper 3.3.jpg
Here i dont have a sharp shot of the head, but hope it still allows ID

4 - lascar again.jpglascar LOL.jpg
Here i go out of character and require help with lascar. I dont think it is a Lasippa tiga or Lasippa heliodore since forewing cellular bar is missing.

Thanks in advance!
Zick

[Psyche]

Correction

No.2 Most likely Borbo cinnara.
There are spots on the HW, clearer in this pic.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...2029/large.jpg

This plus the white face & thicker antennal clubs suggest B. cinnara

Examples.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...2m8uw&usqp=CAU
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KaVjdL_FAM...lt_Khew_01.jpg


TL Seow; Cheers.

[Zicky]

i see, thanks very much doctor Seow!

[Zicky]

Hi Doctor Seow,

Another few skippers and a brownwing to ask!

1-caltorus 1.1.jpgcaltorus 1.2.jpg
The antenna has a white region, so i suppose caltoris cormasa?

2-dart1.1.jpg
i only have one shot. Since the forewing dark regions arent very dark, would this be a potanthus species?

3-lesser dart 1.1.jpglesser dart 1.3.jpg
Potanthus omaha?

4-pelopidus 1.1.jpgpelopidus 1.3.jpg
P. agna?

5-skip 1.jpgskip 2.jpg
P. omaha?

6-miletues 1.1.jpgmiletues 1.3.jpg
which brown wing is this? i cant tell them apart

Thanks in regards

Zick

[Psyche]

1 Caltoris malaya.
C. malaya have a pale area but rather weak on the antenna.
FW without any spot, so no spot is visible in the upper cell area.
Male rusty brown, female ochreous brown.
Males.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-m1O18RS0-...M_adult_01.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...848/large.jpeg
Females.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1oLoYzhVi...M_adult_04.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...9570/large.jpg

Caltoris cormasa often have an small FW upper cellspot visible at rest ;UnH strongly reddish.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-TjKxWVHrQ...herHern_01.jpg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8EbM65dWq...C_adult_03.jpg



2. Potanthus omaha.
Abdominal end yellow; veins are lightly darken

3. Taractrocera archias.
The wingshape, markings & antenna are typical.


4. Borbo cinnara.
Borbo cinnara have no HW cellspot. HW typicaly with 3 spots.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jMZu5Yy4Y...ederick_01.jpg

Pelopidas agna have a prominent HW cellspot.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Hw681ALm5F...ded+Swift+.jpg


5. Potanthus omaha.


6. Miletus biggsii
Uniformly grey or brown.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...saDmw&usqp=CAU
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-IGfWKPlNI...nie-LokePF.jpg

M. symethus.
Apex of each wing shaded white.At rest they aligned.
HW postdiscal spot shaded black on the inner margins.
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...nius---Sim.jpg
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...hee%20Beng.jpg


TL Seow: Cheers.

[Psyche]

Post 29.

1. Male Telicota colon.
FW spots staggered, ie not aligned.
Male ,Female.
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...colon2-KSK.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-grsw9HIBWI...n%2Bstinga.jpg


2. Baoris male, probably Baoris farri.
The wingshape is distorted.
Baoris have FW spots.
B. farri .
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...B_DSC_6157.jpg


3. Polytremis lubricans male.
Note yellow FW spots.
Colour rendition is wrong.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/155010380@N05/43383536271
https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca88...zXJ7JToGG8_u1g


4. Female Pantoporia sandaka.
Pantoporia have a grey submarginal band lacking in Lasippa.

P. hordonia ;grey submatginal band wide.
Male Female.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-UsULpFSI_...0/DSC_2572.JPG
https://i.pinimg.com/474x/69/c1/5e/6...9e58922667.jpg

P. sandaka; grey submarginal band narrow ,often broken into beads.
2 males & 2 females.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rzo8wjfyC...erick_02_c.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/1187/1...db16cd75_z.jpg
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...erick%20Ho.jpg
https://content.eol.org/data/media/2...os_1006816.jpg


TL Seow: Cheers.