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    Post 90.

    1. Male Potanthus omaha.

    2/ Male Polytremis lubricans. Female is yellower.

    3. Female Telicota colon.
    Male & 2 female.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...3543/large.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...9905/large.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...425/large.jpeg

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    Dear Doctor Seow,

    My friend here has shot this skipper at pulau ubin, which is in a quite worned out condition. My initial ID is Zographetus doxus, ID from the white antenna and ground colour of the wings of the skipper itself. However, i discovered that there are other species that look alike, namely the Zographetus ogygia. I think it could very well be said for a range of species of skipper however.

    I kindly request to hear your second opinion of this observation, and i dropped the inaturalist link below since i do not have the photo. All credits goes to Yu Fei who shot this photo.

    Inat observation - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/136746438

    Skipping regards
    Zicky
    Zick Soh

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    Post 92.

    Worn examples are always difficult.

    Three species were previously recorded in Singapore.

    Zographetus doxus.
    Underside ground ocnhreous to chestnut brown.
    Male antenna with smaller white area.
    UnH with a yellowish discal area and the veins darken.
    Marginal band sharper & HW dark cellspot always prominent.
    Males.
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...D_adult_12.jpg
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...nny%20Chir.jpg
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...erry%20Ong.jpg
    Female.
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...Bene%20Tay.jpg


    Zographetus ogygia.
    UnH ground colour golden brown to red brown.
    Male antenna with larger white area.
    UnH uniformly red brown , veins hardly dark & marginal band obscure. HW dark cellspot weak or absent.
    Males.
    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-GFVEOFh60...-HoraceTan.jpg
    https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterfl...phetus-ogygia/
    Female.
    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kryJ8yvgA...ygia-KohCH.jpg


    Z. rama
    UnH brown, unmarked or obscurely spotted. Presumably extinct.


    This image should be male Zographetus doxus.
    Salient features.
    HW with a yellowish area. This can not be due to wear alone as it is in the correct place.
    The veins are strongly darken.
    There is indication of a HW dark border.
    The antennal white area is relatively small.


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    Thank you Doctor Seow!

    Skipping regards
    Zicky
    Zick Soh

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    Dear Doctor Seow,

    I got a few skippers here, but they werent cooperative and flew away after one shot or so. I would wish to get a second opinion from you about their identities as such, however.

    1 - P.mathias? I am not super sure how to differentiate Pelopidas assamensis from the rest, seeing as this individual was a bit larger, but not too the point i would call it a out of norm large
    Inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/137002374
    pelopidas 1.jpg

    2 - P.omaha?
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/137002365
    potanthua 2.1.jpgpotanthus2.2.jpg

    3 - another p.omaha? Appears to have a visible abdominal black band however
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/137002354
    potanthus 1.1.jpg

    Skipper activity has fallen significantly from the areas i frequent lately - got to change some family soon

    Skipping regards
    zicky
    Zick Soh

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    Dear Doctor Seow,

    Another few additions i require some help with. Unfortunately my laptop has spoilt so i cant downsie effectively on phone without having the photo looking like puzzle pieces, so ill include the inat links only this time! Apologies for any inconvenience caused.

    1 - Telicota besta?
    inat link -https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/137124720

    2 - P.omaha? Was shot against the sun, colours are a bit darken
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/137124722

    3 - P.mathias/agna? I dont think its borbo cinnara despite the cell spot is missing-i feel like the spot has been rubbed off
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/137124724

    4 - borbo cinnara? Feel like the spots are more align compared to pelopidas
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/137124725

    5 - P.conjunctus?
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/137124728

    Thank in advance!
    Skipping regards
    Zicky
    Zick Soh

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    Post 96.

    1, https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/137124720
    Male Telicota besta; HW veins raised & dar-lined; Underparts not paler.

    2. Male Potanthus omaha.
    Abdominal end yellow (basal black line stronger than usual.) Veins darken.

    3 Male Parnara bada.

    4. Male Borbo cinnara.

    Parnara bada.
    Short antenna with thick club.
    FW no cellspot.
    FW subapical spots nearly in a straight line, lower spots 6 & 7 always so.
    HWsometimes with a diffuse cellend spot.
    HW postdiscal spots very variable, may be much reduced as here.
    Singapore examples.
    https://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d...2011--0379.jpg
    http://static.inaturalist.org/photos/2464963/large.jpg
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93050001.html

    Pelopidas
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    HW with a cellspot near the base of vein 6.
    FW 2 cellspot.
    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-2zX05Bzip...Horace-Tan.jpg

    Borbo cinnara
    FW with 0 - 2 cellspots.
    FW subapical spots in a neater arc.
    Antennal club thicker than in Pelopidas.
    HW without cellspot.
    HW typically with spots in space 2, 3, & 6. Additional spots may be present in spaces 4 & 5.
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jMZu5Yy4Y...ederick_01.jpg
    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-w--ngH74-..._flower_01.jpg

    BAORINI.png


    5. Male Caltoris philippina.
    HW without any spot; sharp narrow FW; black antenna ;greenish ochreous scalings.


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    Last edited by Psyche; 02-Oct-2022 at 01:03 AM.

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    Hi Doctor Seow,

    I have shot this lassipa but is unable to check if its a Malayan or a Burmese lascar, i would like to clarify. This is my first observation of it feeding on biden pilosa/alba, which i personally have never seen a forest species lured by a urban garden flower before!

    L.tiga?
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/137609286
    lassipa 1.2.jpgLassipa1.1.jpglassipa1.3.jpg

    Skipping regards!
    Zicky
    Zick Soh

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    Post 98.
    Lasippa tiga male.
    Lasippa.png

    L tiga ;FW submarginal spot 3 2X wider than spot 4 in both sexes. (View horizontally)
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check..._Horace_01.jpg
    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rzo8wjfyC...HenryKoh_c.jpg


    L. heliodore. FW submarginal spot 3 & 4 of equal width in male; in female spot 3 is 1.5X wider (View horizontally).
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...race%20Tan.jpg
    Female.
    https://www.singapore.biodiversity.o...f7be618cca.jpg

    Female on the right.
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...20-%20Loke.jpg

    Biden pilosa is a worldwide weed from S. America.


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    Thank you Doctor Seow for the insightful diagram!

    I understand Biden Pilosa is a invasive plant worldwide but i find that butterfly find the flowers very attractive, even if they arent from the native range. Similarly, lassipa and pantoporia dont seem to come out or feed on flower nectar that often. So i find this observation rather interesting.

    Regards
    Zicky
    Zick Soh

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