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  1. #111
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    Post 110.
    Pelopidas agna male.

    You are right it is Pelopidas even though the HW cellspot is absent.
    There are faint small spots in HW space 2, 3, 4, & 6.
    On the underside FW spot 2 is rectangular, & there is a black line running from it obliquely down.
    This is brand mark only seen in Pelopidas. (the brand is actually on the upperside.)
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...0875/large.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...0922/large.jpg

    Pelopidas male FW underside.
    PELOBR.png
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...9391/large.jpg


    There are examples of P. mathias & agna without the HW cellspot.
    P. mathias male.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...4101/large.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...8838/large.jpg
    P. agna male.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...8449/large.jpg

    Borbo cinnara can look similar.
    HW spots 2 ,3, & 6 always large; FW subapical spots set in a deeper arc; antennal club thicker.
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jMZu5Yy4Y...ederick_01.jpg
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check..._female_01.jpg
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KaVjdL_FAM...lt_Khew_01.jpg
    https://static.inaturalist.org/photo...984/large.jpeg


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    Dear Doctor Seow,

    Before i started using this forum account, i shot before a glassy tiger at pulau ubin, which i feel like didnt seem like the usual dark glassy or blue glassy tiger. I would like to hear ur opinion. Ive only got one phone photo, and they are too fast for the cameras. Given it was at ubin, i was thinking it could be something unusual, it feels like a Ideopsis similis, but also feels too patchy? I would like to hear your valued input

    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/142430461

    Skipping regards
    Zicky
    Zick Soh

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    Post 112.

    You found a new species for Singapore.
    Ideopsis similis persimilis.

    The name Blue Glassy Tiger was originally given for this species.
    It used to range over most of India to S. E. Asia mainland.
    Even 20 years ago it have made its way south to Selangor in P. Malaysia.
    It seems a matter of time before it reaches Singapore.

    It is a larger species with larger & more rounded blue spots.
    It looks spectacular in the sun ,being large & bright blue, unlike I. vulgaris which is duskier.
    H. K.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...4034/large.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...084/medium.JPG
    Thailand.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...-similis-1.jpg
    K. L. 2018.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...447/large.jpeg


    Ideopsis vulgaris macrina for comparison.
    http://www.fotowinti.ch/Schmetterlin...acrina%203.JPG
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_rzo8wjfyC...T_adult_01.jpg


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    WOOHOO!!!!!! Thanks Doctor Seow!!

    Skipping regards
    Zicky
    Zick Soh

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    Hi Doctor Seow,

    I have a couple of skippers again, which i would like to give a try

    1 - Parnara species? Or borbo cinnara, i note the forewing submarginal spots seems to be in a straight line
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/142898458

    2 - Polytremis lubricans
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/142898456

    3 - caltoris species?
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/142898838

    4 - i suppose its also a caltoris, but its a one shot wonder, or pemera?
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/142898845

    5 - another caltoris?
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/142668961

    Skipping regards
    Zicky
    Zick Soh

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    Post 115.

    1. Parnara bada. Note also short antenna with thick club.

    2. Polytremis lubricans. Note colour & shape of HW spot 4.

    3. Probably Pe;opidas conjunctus male. Variant with reduced spots.
    There is a HW cellspot; in the correct spot ,so can not be an artifact ie injury mark, etc.
    Deep brown colour suggest P. conjunctus.
    https://wanderingbutterflyeffect.fil...2468f1860b.jpg
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-FvDO3Lfw_...lt_Khew_03.jpg

    4.Uncertain. The shape is as in Caltoris philippina but the colour is wrong & there is an upper cellspot.
    C. philippina male.
    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-dUpUIge8A...ld_male_01.jpg

    Could it be another Caltoris. No other have this narrow shape.

    Could it be Baoris . Never seen one so distorted.
    Baoris farri male.
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/itchydogimages/7863317448


    5. Probaly Caltoris bromus female.
    C. cormasa always have the subapical spots small.
    FW & HW of the same colour tone.
    Female C. bromus.
    http://woxiong.butterfly-photo.com/d...e.php?pid=1261

    C. cormasa female.
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-2caxXSexYr...0/DSC_0108.JPG


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    Dear Doctor Seow,

    I kindly request this identification for what i suspect is Zographetus species, Zographetus ogygia. The photo credit goes to Nicholas, with his remarkable and outstanding photography.

    links - https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid...18814794224471
    https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid...18814794224471
    300391244_10222251268574182_4327206361181254006_n.jpg
    just in case the link fails

    Here are two links to observe the butterfly

    Skipping regards
    Zicky
    Zick Soh

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    Post 117.

    When it becomes very worn as here the appearance can be confusing.
    Although the HW have a reddish tone the overall markings are closer to Z. doxus.
    I would put it this is more likely to be Z. doxus male.

    Z. doxus generally ochreous although it can be reddish.
    HW with a yellow discal area.
    HW brown border more defined.
    Veins in the outer zone strongly darken.
    Reddish males.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...2981/large.jpg
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mSeLOW7gr...Y_DSC_7230.jpg
    Typical males.
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...nny%20Chir.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...593/large.jpeg
    Females.
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...Bene%20Tay.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...603/large.jpeg


    Z. ogygia.
    HYW more uniform redbrown to golden brown.
    Veins hardly darken.
    No yellow area, & brown border diffuse.
    Males.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...412/large.jpeg
    https://static.inaturalist.org/photo...631/large.jpeg
    Females.
    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kryJ8yvgA...ygia-KohCH.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...295/large.jpeg


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