23-Oct-2022, 12:12 AM
#51
I see, thank you for the clarifications Dr Seow!
Jian Kai
24-Oct-2022, 05:00 PM
#52
Last edited by Psyche; 24-Oct-2022 at 05:49 PM .
29-Oct-2022, 06:56 PM
#53
Hi Dr Seow,
Shot this really faded skipper, not sure if you are able to ID this, but any advice would be appreciated. There is no HW cell spot, and 2 lower HW spots maybe a third but I'm not too sure.
Parnara sp? Here is the iNaturalist link for higher resolution: https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/140355654
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Same individual shot by Lumin Ong with slightly more visible upperside spots.
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Jian Kai
29-Oct-2022, 08:01 PM
#54
Also, is this Pantoporia sandaka or hordonia? Shot by Lumin. Thank you!
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Jian Kai
29-Oct-2022, 09:22 PM
#55
Post 53.
Male Pelopidas agna.
If there is only the 1st pic there would be great difficulty in IDing this.
Pix 2 & 3 shows two round cellspots, the path of male brand, a black line running from the large rectangular spot 2.
Underside colour uniform brown.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93090001.html
P. agna . FW spots 2 & 3 narrow, rectangular. Underside uniformly brown.
Males.
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...A_male_06a.jpg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tQNuynda7...A_male_06b.jpg
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0ay6g4CBF...A_male_05c.jpg
Pelopidas mathias .
FW spots 2 & 3 wide, quadrate. Underside shaded grey or smudged & 'dirty'.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...678/large.jpeg
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...ft%20-bene.jpg
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vqr7KmROf...perside_01.jpg
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29-Oct-2022, 09:59 PM
#56
Last edited by Psyche; 30-Oct-2022 at 12:03 AM .
13-Nov-2022, 04:53 PM
#57
Jian Kai
13-Nov-2022, 09:17 PM
#58
They are both male Telicota besta.
From what I can see, both have raised veins with shadowlines.
To reiterate.
T. colon male Ided by the staggered FW spots arrangement.
Male brand arcuate as in T. besta .
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...colon2-KSK.jpg
T. besta .
Male generally with raised veins lightly darken.
HW ground colour light.
Male brand arcuate , set nearer the inner boundary of the black space.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6-BjVfqOI...male_up_01.jpg
Same individual.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-n_yvZvniiO...0/DSC_0303.JPG
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-nveFPRTeP...0/DSC_0296.JPG
Telicota linna
HW veins across band not darken. Ground often duskier. Paler underparts.
Male brand straight in the black space ,with equal black on both sides of the brand.
Same individual. Correction : This is T. augias; Upperside FW shows a triangular orange patch at the base of space 2, & + the straight brand.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...251/large.jpeg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...265/large.jpeg
Others. These are correct as T. linna. Note underparts paler.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...4981/large.jpg
[/I][/I]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-GdFakZH5je...Horace-Tan.jpg
https://alchetron.com/cdn/telicota-6...resize-750.jpg
Females.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...7830/large.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...9958/large.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...629/large.jpeg
Added.
Male upperside showing brand straight, with equal black spacings on both sides, & base of space 2 black.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qDEk4MIq_...TL_male_05.jpg
Telicota augias.
Male very orangey bright.
HW band not contrsasting with ground colour, & veins not darken.
Male brand straight & often large in the black space.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...5337/large.jpg
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5336/9...ff7fdc56_b.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Hp7OPF_eJ6...as-augias).jpg
same individual (reared specimen)
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6riT3uzrel...ias_male_1.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-y3LkExqbZs...ias_male_2.jpg
TL Seow: Cheers
PS. An example of confusion.
IDed as Telicota augias but male brand is arcuate & set near the inner border of the black space ,thus indicating it is T. besta.
Note raised veins.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...319/large.jpeg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...326/large.jpeg
Last edited by Psyche; 14-Nov-2022 at 12:09 AM .
13-Nov-2022, 10:37 PM
#59
Thank you Dr Seow! I shot them near the host plant Scleria bancana which should also further suggest T. besta
Jian Kai
15-Nov-2022, 04:59 PM
#60
Hi Dr Seow,
I went to check out the newly opened Rifle Range Nature Park and shot this skipper. I believe its a Baoris sp., a confirmation would be appreciated! Thank you!
Baoris oceia? iNaturalist link: https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/142050082
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Jian Kai
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