12-Jun-2022, 09:23 PM
#11
Thank you for the clarifications and explanations Dr Seow! The P. lubricans picture was an older handphone shot, so the colours might seem weird.
Jian Kai
19-Jun-2022, 12:08 PM
#12
Correction
Post 7 No. 2. Baoris oceia.
Although this looks reddish like Caltoris cormasa. a number of things are not quite right.
Both antennae are black, showing no pale areas as in C. cormasa.
FW is more swept.
FW spots are obscure. This is very rare in Caltoris & common in Baoris.
Baoris oceia.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-hLOHSi2j5...hSwift-KSK.jpg
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...-Simon-Sng.jpg
http://www.butterflycircle.com/attac...6&d=1589172088
http://www.butterflycircle.com/attac...5&d=1589172077
C. cormasa
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...8/original.jpg
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-h5zPj8F1v...C_field_01.jpg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/hengbok-nikita/9662709824
Little details matter but in photos these are hard to judge.
TL Seow: Cheers.
Last edited by Psyche; 25-Jun-2022 at 09:38 PM .
19-Jun-2022, 09:46 PM
#13
Indeed, especially when it is quite a worn out individual. Thank you for the correction Dr Seow!
Jian Kai
25-Jun-2022, 05:42 PM
#14
Hi Dr Seow,
Here are a few more I require help with. Thank you!
1. No pale area on antennae, Baoris sp?
photo1656138733 (1).jpeg
photo1656138733 (2).jpeg
2. Taractrocera archias?
Taractrocera.jpeg
3. Potanthus sp.
Potanthus sp.jpeg
Jian Kai
25-Jun-2022, 07:36 PM
#15
Post 14.
1. Baoris oceia. male.
Baoris oceia tend to be darker & the smaller spots reduced or absent.
Males.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-hLOHSi2j5...hSwift-KSK.jpg
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...-Simon-Sng.jpg
B. farri tend to be more fully spotted & lighter brown.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/itchydogimages/7863317448
2. Taractrocera archias .male.
Note the antennal clubs are rounded without the apiculus.
3. Probably Potanthus mingo male. Correction: Female from the sharp FW apex with rounded margin,& the notched abdominal end.
The abdominal end is hidden by the HW, but a patch of black indicate a black basal band.
Of the three (or 4) species with a black basal band.
Potanthus serina large FW 16mm.
FW spot 5 smaller than spot 4.
HW band, veins not dark-dusted; ground shaded dark brown not black ;often a small spot 6 on the inner corner.
Males.
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...serina-KSK.jpg
https://www.thaibutterflies.com/wp-c...a-1080x675.jpg
Potanthus trachala. medium FW 15mm.
FW spots 4 & 5 not overlapping the spots above & below; spots spiky.
HW upper spot of band project out strongly.
Males.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-kcinccQ1a...%2Btytleri.JPG
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kvlAhJLLsd...la-tytleri.jpg
Potanthus mingo. Small FW 12mm.
FW spots 4 & 5 generally overlapping the other spots, variable.
HW band heavily edged by black spots & heavy shading.
Males.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-f3wB2A2ujB...0/_MG_1531.jpg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-EGfuIVmIA...nthus%2Bsp.JPG
Poanthus juno. FW 13mm.
Abdominal end may be dark banded in the male , less so in the female.
FW typicaaly with two subapical spots .(Spot 8 occassinally present & tiny.
FW spot 5 often smaller than spot 4. HW band upper end often rounded.
Male.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-eLxO6Cqrl-...it%2BBrown.jpg
Female.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WroJpPq0U...Dart-KohCH.jpg
TL Seow: Cheers.
Compare Potanthus ganda males ,Singapore.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...325/large.jpeg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...6/original.jpg
Last edited by Psyche; 26-Jun-2022 at 08:26 PM .
25-Jun-2022, 09:19 PM
#16
Jian Kai
26-Jun-2022, 04:36 AM
#17
Correction.
Post 14.
3. Female Potanthus ganda.
The triangular profile suggest a male, but this due to the butterfly fscing away from the camera, ie the head is farthest.
The pointed FW apex & the abdominal end indicate a female.
All female Potanthus often have heavier dark shadings of the abdominal end.
The markings although dark are very similar to typical P. ganda females.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-X9BG2_Zk_...t_Adult_02.jpg
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-e_HuBihng..._underside.jpg
In P. mingo the abdominal end black band is strong & the HW band is excavated by dark spots.
Female left.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-tFtROXZYi...us%2Bmingo.JPG
Female P. trachala for comparison.
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check..._female_01.jpg
TL Seow: Cheers.
26-Jun-2022, 05:13 PM
#18
Thank you for the correction Dr Seow! I just shot a couple more that require an ID.
1. Size was notably relatively larger than the normal darts, could it be P. serina?
photo1656226944 (6).jpeg
photo1656226944 (8).jpeg
photo1656226944 (7).jpeg
2. Telicota sp? Unfortunately no better shots.
Palm dart.jpeg
Jian Kai
26-Jun-2022, 08:24 PM
#19
26-Jun-2022, 10:16 PM
#20
Jian Kai
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