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    Quote Originally Posted by LJK1410 View Post
    Thank you Dr Seow, based on your explanations, number 3 should also be a Caltoris malaya with the more ochreous shaded brown and two FW subapical spots? A little unclear with your numbering hahaha
    3 is Polytremis lubricans male.
    Look at the markings on the antennal club. It is different from Caltoris.
    HW spots on the underside may be invisible.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...cc297668-1.jpg


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    Ah okay thank you!
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    Hi Dr Seow,

    Have some skippers for ID. Also I'm a little confused about between Potanthus ganda and omaha, are the differences just the dark dusting in the HW veins across the orange patch? Because sometimes P. ganda seems to have a little dark scaling on the veins. Thank you!

    1. Potanthus ganda?
    ganda.jpeg

    2. This should be Potanthus omaha
    omaha.jpeg

    3. Telicota augias? Very vibrant orange and very very faint HW markings (did not change the saturation or vibrancy in post-editing)
    augias.jpeg

    4. Telicota linna or besta? HW veins not dark dusted, but veins are strongly raised. I can't really tell if the body/face is paler. *Shot by Ash Foo
    telicota.jpeg
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    Post 32.

    1 .Female Potanthus ganda.

    2. Female Potanthus omaha (probably with some hybrid blood)

    3. Male Telicota augias.

    4. Female Telicota linna.
    If the pic is very sharp & the veins can be seen to be clean it should be T. linna
    Also note the body underparts (abdomen & thorax),and face are paler.
    Telicota linna.
    Male, female.
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-79Gj7N-1G...TL_male_01.jpg
    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-e_7pWdo7X..._female_03.jpg

    Telicota besta.
    Male & two females.
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-EcRIOq2iv...t_male_-04.jpg
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jNl8Waf_H...ale_03+(1).jpg
    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-OEM0FaXJU..._female_01.jpg

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    Potanthus omaha & ganda can be quite tricky at times.
    There are intermediates or hybrids between the two.


    Potanthus omaha.
    Typically dull ochreous.
    Veins shoulbe dusted throughout, including FW.
    Veins on upperside HW also blackend.
    Ground colour very lightly darken.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...759/large.jpeg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...057/large.jpeg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...482/large.jpeg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...1235/large.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...7871/large.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...433/large.jpeg


    Potanthus ganda.
    More orange especially in the male.
    Veins typically not dark dusted.
    Spots edged with heavier dark shadings.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...978/large.jpeg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...200/large.jpeg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...648/large.jpeg
    Females. Note veins across FW band also not or barely darken.
    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-e_HuBihng..._underside.jpg
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Ht4NZzQND..._underside.jpg
    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/--7DDZsR_4...da_dart_05.jpg
    https://static.inaturalist.org/photo...1493/large.jpg


    Intermediate forms.

    These have more the characters of P. ganda
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...946/large.jpeg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...2938/large.jpg
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-L3ew9ztkIk...thus-ganda.jpg
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...Dart-KohCH.jpg
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-L3ew9ztkIk...thus-ganda.jpg


    These looks more like P. omaha.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...2965/large.jpg
    https://static.inaturalist.org/photo...2955/large.jpg



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    Thank you for the clarifications Dr Seow!
    Jian Kai

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    Hi Dr Seow,

    Is this Telicota besta? The colour seemed a little off, but I reckon its from age. Thank you!
    photo1664531516.jpeg
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    Post 36.

    Female Telicota colon.
    Note FW spots 4 & 5 are not aligned properly. Often they are distorted.
    The upper spot 5 is often bisected horizontally.
    Males,
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...colon2-KSK.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...1652/large.jpg
    Females.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-grsw9HIBWI...n%2Bstinga.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...3633/large.jpg


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