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    Post 30.

    1 is undoubtedly Pelopidas mathias.


    2 is too worn, perhaps correct as P. agna.


    P. mathias Darker, greyer ,unevenly shaded; FW cilia darker.
    All Singapore examples.
    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NQjrfm7_w...enedict_01.jpg
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/budak/51631121777
    http://www.natureloveyou.sg/Minibeas...205%20(15).JPG
    Female.
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...hee%20Ming.jpg


    P. agna. more uniformly brown, neater.; FW cilia lighter.
    All Singapore examples.
    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Hw681ALm5F...ded+Swift+.jpg
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tQNuynda7...A_male_06b.jpg
    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...5eFKg&usqp=CAU
    Female.
    https://live.staticflickr.com/579/22...f00c7df8_b.jpg

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    3a Likely Caltoris malaya male.

    The pale area on the antenna is prominent in C. cormasa, bromus & cahira, but less so in C. malaya, & even less so in C. philippina.
    However the feature may be variable dependant of the flash or shot angle.

    Here the FW is raised high enough to show no upper cellspot.


    C. malaya. No cellspot Underside rusty brown in male, more ochreous in female.
    All Singapore examples.
    Males
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-m1O18RS0-...M_adult_01.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...0812/large.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...650/large.jpeg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...341/large.jpeg
    female.
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ZFArQYADX...M_adult_04.jpg


    Caltoris bromus. More often with 2 large subapical spots rather than 3.
    FW almost always with two cellspot.
    Underside dark brown overlaid with ochreous scalings.
    Female almost always with 1 - 2 underside HW spots.
    All Singapore examples.
    https://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a...psd5aebfd1.png
    https://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d...012---7140.jpg
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/38212403
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...5527/large.jpg
    Females.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...2716/large.jpg (too red)
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...3072/large.jpg (too red).

    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...504/large.jpeg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...513/large.jpeg

    Actual colour Female C. bromus Taiwan.
    https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6021/6...f055cc62_z.jpg
    Last edited by Psyche; 08-May-2022 at 05:47 PM.

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    3b Caltoris cormasa.female. Too much grey rendition as seen in the background colour.


    C. cormasa.
    FW with only lower cellspot, but often an upper small cellspot also present; more often 3 subapical spots ,spots yellowish.
    Underside HW darker & redder than FW.
    Males.
    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-todEFNke3B...C_adult_02.jpg
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-TjKxWVHrQ...herHern_01.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...5318/large.jpg
    female.
    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-dg1jseJPJ2...0/DSC_0115.JPG
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...489/large.jpeg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...0/original.jpg

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    http://www.butterflycircle.com/attac...4&d=1651976343
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/attac...5&d=1651976376


    3c Baoris ? oceia female. ;subapical & discal spots small.

    3d Baoris ? oceia male.; subapical & discal spots small.



    3c. FW with 2 equal cellspots ;antenna shaft blackish.
    3d. FW upper cellspot crescentic. Pale area on antenna small.


    Baoris species .
    FW spots often much reduced in the male.
    Antennal pale area very small, usually invisible.
    HW veins always raised, prominent.( Not unique to Baoris .)
    Male in Singapore have upper cellspot crescent/streak.
    B. oceia presumably blackish.
    B. farri presumably brown.


    Baoris farri; more often with complete spots, in female always.
    Male India with reduced spot ( B. oceia is absent in India).
    https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/B...B_DSC_6157.jpg
    female.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...ra_ad839_0.jpg
    http://butterfliesvietnam.blogspot.c...ush-swift.html

    Singapore.
    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-W2EAN-yRd...i_adult_02.jpg
    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-EtcxesbOy...eclosed_01.jpg
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-JViKD90RJ...oris_sp_02.jpg


    Baoris oceia; Spots often more reduced in the male; generally darker.
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...ift---Khew.jpg
    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-zofygsdg7...oris+oceia.jpg
    Last edited by Psyche; 08-May-2022 at 07:23 PM.

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    http://www.butterflycircle.com/attac...7&d=1651976810
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/attac...7&d=1651976810

    3e. Caltoris cormasa male.
    3f. Probably Caltoris cormasa female. Too much grey,note ground colour. 3 subapical spots.
    Last edited by Psyche; 09-May-2022 at 08:29 AM.

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    http://www.butterflycircle.com/attac...8&d=1651976878


    4. Polytremis lubricans female.


    Antenna without pale area tip partlydull orange, partly white.
    Underaise coarsely mottled/speckled. HW spots may be obscure.
    FW spots always deeper yellow than Caltoris.
    Male.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-UWuFuyBF67...+lubricans.jpg
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/155010380@N05/43383536271
    Female.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0cUzxS0FpT...us%2BSwift.jpg




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    Thanks Dr Seow!

    Adding on 2 more skippers for ID.

    1. I am thinking Baoris? FW cellspots seemed to be equally sized but subapical and discal spots are not reduced? Hence I am stuck.

    DSC_0316.jpgDSC_0311.jpg

    2. Telicota sp. but unable to go further. Perhaps T. besta?

    DSC_0330.jpg

    Thank you.

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    1. Female Baoris farri.
    B. farri is oftern fully spotted especially in the female whre all spots are large.
    Baoris often HW veins raised, pale patch at HW cellend; abdomen often banded.
    Females.
    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-EtcxesbOy...eclosed_01.jpg
    http://butterfliesvietnam.blogspot.c...ush-swift.html



    2. Female Telicota besta .


    T. colon; FW spots 4 & 5 often distorted ,staggered (not in line) UnH veins lightly dark.
    Male & female.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...n-1080x675.jpg
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-grsw9HIBWI...n%2Bstinga.jpg

    T. besta UnH veins raised, lightly dark-dusted in both sexes; FW spots 4 & 5 in line.
    Male & female.
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LFTJK1e_eF...C_0409-001.JPG
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jNl8Waf_H...ale_03+(1).jpg


    T.linna; UnH veins not dark-dusted in both sexes; ground colour duskier; face & underparts pale.
    Male & female.
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-79Gj7N-1G...TL_male_01.jpg
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-pxufm6yxw...TL_male_02.jpg


    T. augias Male uniformly deep orange ,UnH veins not darken; female lighter, UnH veins darker.
    Male & female.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Hp7OPF_eJ6...as-augias).jpg
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oeax9BCEjg...ias_female.jpg




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    Thanks Dr. Seow.

    Can I check if this is Baoris oceia?

    photo6332429803776487404.jpg
    Last edited by sabafish; 13-May-2022 at 10:08 PM.

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    Post 39.
    Male Caltoris cormasa.

    There is a pale area on the antenna.
    HW without raised veins.
    Thoracic hairs reddish brown as UnH.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...5318/large.jpg

    Baoris oceia.Males
    Antennae mostly black.
    HW with raised veins , no reddish tone.
    Thorax mostly dark grey brown.
    Male oceia have spots much reduced.
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/75417899@N02/49909185968
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...-Simon-Sng.jpg


    TL Seow: Cheers.
    Last edited by Psyche; 15-May-2022 at 10:23 AM.

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