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    Default Symbrenthia

    Dr Seow, one of our members has managed to breed this. Is this typical S. hipplocus?

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    Yes. It is S. hippoclus.

    These two can be extremely diificult to seperate.

    S. lilaea is a continental species . It occurs largely in the hills in Peninsular Malaysia.


    S. hippoclus is a Sundanian species ranging from Sundaland to PNG.

    C7P4 states of the FW discal spot in space 3 being largely pink in S. hippoclus & orange in S. lilaea

    The discal spot 3 is not the rounded pale spot but the triangular one next to it.
    In good shot this can be seen to be paler. Similarly the HW discal spot 6 is paler.
    On the HW the discal spot 7 which is quadrate in shape have a more obvious smudged spot on its upper outer margin.
    The HW sub-basal dark fascia have a large tongue-shaped protrusion.
    On the upperside. the cell band is less fractured, the subapical band more united, & the postdiscal have a distinct tail extending basad on the lower margin.

    Singapore.
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3mbMxJxVa...ster-FedHo.jpg
    https://live.staticflickr.com/7902/3...04e424c7_b.jpg
    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TnxZ7fiEF...r-AlanAng3.jpg
    P. Malaysia.
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6oIrfnj_Y...0/DSC_0151.JPG
    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-F0cgjhSlQ...0/DSC_0026.JPG
    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-cnuJHG8B7...0/DSC_0118.JPG


    S lilaea.
    FW discal spot 3 ( large ,triangular ,next to the round spot) is orange.
    HW uppermost discal spot 7 with the outer margin clear.
    The tongue on the dark sub-basal fascia small.
    Upperside with the cell bar more fractured, the subapical band ;s outer spot usually detached, & the tail extension of the postdiscal band less, or absent.
    P. Malaysia.
    https://a4.pbase.com/g4/25/686825/2/...4.TzMIDVHN.jpg
    https://a4.pbase.com/g2/25/686825/2/...0.Eg8BcQof.jpg
    Thailand.
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/nym/760100010.html
    http://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conten...a-lilaea-2.jpg
    The uppersides here from Chiang Mal are ssp lilaea.
    https://live.staticflickr.com/5588/3...bf44e444_b.jpg
    https://d29tlldvxtis6c.cloudfront.ne...jester4157.jpg


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    Last edited by Psyche; 01-Nov-2021 at 08:33 AM.

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    Thanks, Dr Seow! Valuable information! I'll also post the caterpillar from which those adult specimen photos came. For reference and record. It was bred on Australian Mulberry (Pipturus argentus), a host plant that has not been recorded, although it also belongs to the Urticaceae family.

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    Pipturus argenteus is a pest species from the Australasian region.
    It is listed a a hostplant for S. hippoclus there.

    There is an error in the Igarashi illustration of the life-cycle.
    The Sundanian S. hippoclus is very similar to S. lilaea.

    https://nlliew66butterflies.blogspot...hippoclus.html


    It is nothing like S. hippoclus in the Papuan region.
    There the male have rather narrow markings & the female broad ones.
    Biak, West Irian fig 3, & 4, male & female.
    https://archive.org/details/transact...p?view=theater

    It is most likely the location Malaya is actually Maluku.
    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-aeJAUy4o7...nJester-LH.jpg



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    Last edited by Psyche; 31-Oct-2021 at 07:46 PM.

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