ID help, please!

[chengailim]

Dear Dr Seow,

Please confirm if this is a Pemara pugnans?

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Thanks,

Regards
Cheng Ai

[Psyche]

Caltoris cormasa male.


Pemara pugnans
Underside u8niform brown with a densely speckled appearance. FW spots if noticeable yellow. Long gradual black antennal club.
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...20-%20Khew.jpg
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...enry%20Koh.jpg


Caltoris can be a rather difficult genus to ID as much depend on the colouration.
In photos it can varies enormously.


Caltoris cormasa
Underside strongly red/purple brown, the HW usually darker.
Occassionally most of the FW spots may be absent except for spots 2 & 3.
Typical example.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...jpg?1578751150

Caltoris bromus.
Underside dark brown with an ochreous overlay. FW upper cellspot should be prominent. Female often with extra HW spots.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...jpg?1580634497
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...psd5aebfd1.png


Caltoris cahira.
Very similar to C. bromus but underside HW dark chocolate.
https://live.staticflickr.com/5739/2...ca2c13f4_b.jpg


Caltoris malaya.
FW without cellspot, so no upper cellspot visible from the underside.
Underside light rusty brown in male.
Probable male.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...jpg?1622818465


TL Seow: Cheers.

[chengailim]

Noted, Dr Seow. Thanks!

[chengailim]

Dear Dr Seow,

Could you please confirm if this is a Caltoris philippina philippina?
I also attach the photo of the caterpillar of this Caltoris that I raised. Hope it helps with the ID.





Regards
Cheng Ai

[Psyche]

Dear Dr Seow,

Could you please confirm if this is a Caltoris philippina philippina?
I also attach the photo of the caterpillar of this Caltoris that I raised. Hope it helps with the ID.





Regards
Cheng Ai

Very strange I can't see any pictures using my desktop computer but I can see the pics on my smartphone.

If you see pics of male & female C. philippina in C&P4 they both have sharp narrower FWs.
This one ? female have broad FW.
The cat is more or less like C. philippina but more smudged.

C. philippina have a greenish ochreous scalings on the underside.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-dUpUIge8A...ld_male_01.jpg
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-usQf1gKHp...t_Lemon_01.jpg
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...-Chir-4223.png



There is another Caltoris, C. tenuis found in the north in Thailand that have greenish scales.
Probable C. tenuis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:C...B_DSC_4180.jpg


You should try to get the upperside FW shot.
C. philippina have no FW cellspot.
C. tenuis have two cellspots.



TL Seow: Cheers.

[chengailim]

Thanks Dr Seow.

I will try and get the upperside FW shot tomorrow before releasing the butterfly.
Is C. Tenuis in the Singapore Checklist?

Btw, I hope you are able to see the pictures on the desktop computer now

Many thanks again,

Regards
Cheng Ai

[Psyche]

Thanks Dr Seow.

I will try and get the upperside FW shot tomorrow before releasing the butterfly.
Is C. Tenuis in the Singapore Checklist?

Btw, I hope you are able to see the pictures on the desktop computer now

Many thanks again,

Regards
Cheng Ai

C.tenuis is not known from P. Malaysia or Singapore.

Note any blurry upperside shot as long as the spots are visible is sufficient.


TL Seow: Cheers,