ID help, please!

[chengailim]

Thanks again, Dr Seow!

[chengailim]

Dear Dr Seow,

Please confirm if this is a Pemara pugnans?

WhatsApp-Image-2021-08-19-at-14.38.jpg

WhatsApp-Image-2021-08-20-at-07.33.jpg

Thanks,

Regards
Cheng Ai

[Psyche]

Caltoris cormasa male.


Pemara pugnans
Underside u8niform brown with a densely speckled appearance. FW spots if noticeable yellow. Long gradual black antennal club.
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...20-%20Khew.jpg
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...enry%20Koh.jpg


Caltoris can be a rather difficult genus to ID as much depend on the colouration.
In photos it can varies enormously.


Caltoris cormasa
Underside strongly red/purple brown, the HW usually darker.
Occassionally most of the FW spots may be absent except for spots 2 & 3.
Typical example.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...jpg?1578751150

Caltoris bromus.
Underside dark brown with an ochreous overlay. FW upper cellspot should be prominent. Female often with extra HW spots.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...jpg?1580634497
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...psd5aebfd1.png


Caltoris cahira.
Very similar to C. bromus but underside HW dark chocolate.
https://live.staticflickr.com/5739/2...ca2c13f4_b.jpg


Caltoris malaya.
FW without cellspot, so no upper cellspot visible from the underside.
Underside light rusty brown in male.
Probable male.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...jpg?1622818465


TL Seow: Cheers.

[chengailim]

Noted, Dr Seow. Thanks!

[chengailim]

Dear Dr Seow,

Could you please confirm if this is a Caltoris philippina philippina?
I also attach the photo of the caterpillar of this Caltoris that I raised. Hope it helps with the ID.





Regards
Cheng Ai

[Psyche]

Dear Dr Seow,

Could you please confirm if this is a Caltoris philippina philippina?
I also attach the photo of the caterpillar of this Caltoris that I raised. Hope it helps with the ID.





Regards
Cheng Ai

Very strange I can't see any pictures using my desktop computer but I can see the pics on my smartphone.

If you see pics of male & female C. philippina in C&P4 they both have sharp narrower FWs.
This one ? female have broad FW.
The cat is more or less like C. philippina but more smudged.

C. philippina have a greenish ochreous scalings on the underside.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-dUpUIge8A...ld_male_01.jpg
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-usQf1gKHp...t_Lemon_01.jpg
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...-Chir-4223.png



There is another Caltoris, C. tenuis found in the north in Thailand that have greenish scales.
Probable C. tenuis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:C...B_DSC_4180.jpg


You should try to get the upperside FW shot.
C. philippina have no FW cellspot.
C. tenuis have two cellspots.



TL Seow: Cheers.

[chengailim]

Thanks Dr Seow.

I will try and get the upperside FW shot tomorrow before releasing the butterfly.
Is C. Tenuis in the Singapore Checklist?

Btw, I hope you are able to see the pictures on the desktop computer now

Many thanks again,

Regards
Cheng Ai