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    Dear Dr. Seow sir, I have tried ided some of them but not sure about it.

    1. Tentative ID: Pithauria cf stramineipennis ? The antennal tip is yellow, similar to Pedesta but not sharply hooked unlike Pithauria?

    Confusion: The HW is almost unmarked. The markings on the upper looks a bit different with white spots rather than yellow as in P. stramineipennis. There is a small white apical spot in the UFO and the spots also looks small and rounded unlike Pithauria stramineipennis.

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    2. Tentative ID: Celastrina argiolus

    Submarginal lunules present ; HW post discal spot in space 1b broken into two forming a bow shape.

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    3. Tentative ID: Celastrina lavendularis

    HW most of the spots are with white halos?

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    4, Tentative ID: Jamides caeruleus?

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    5. I have no idea about this.

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    7. Any possible ID for this Ypthima? The HW striae are unusual.

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    Thank you in advance.

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    1. Have to be Pithauria marsena. An extreme dsf without FW cellspot ? Correction: Thoressa gupta.

    Pedesta have have short apiculus & FW celspot.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sp...edesta-pandita


    Doesn't match any Halpe either.


    Of the three Pithauria species only P. marsena male have the brand in space 1b.
    P. marsena.
    Note the brand with two spots in space 1b.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...ndhi_ag981.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...ndhi_ag982.jpg

    P.c stramineipennis male . No brand in space 1b.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...376d5a08-2.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...9e0e1227-1.jpg


    P. murdava male . No brand either.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...0b3234bf-2.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...fa30c02a-2.jpg
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    2. Probably Celastrina iynteana Correction: C. argiolus iynteana.
    The ssp iynteana is raised to full species. (Porbably not universal yet.)


    Udara dilecta & C. iynteana are very similar.
    U. dilecta is whiter & Celastrina iynteana is greyer
    Also UnH HW postdiscal spot 7 is darker than the other postdiscal spots below it in Celastrina but can difficult to see.
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4/80860010.html
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...2872ad76-1.jpg


    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4/80760001.html
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...a4f29823-1.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...c6eb4ad6a7.jpg
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    3 is C. lavendularis.

    C. lavendularis is dartker, so most of the spots are white haloed.
    Normall FW postdiscal spot 4 is more off-set from spot 5, but not here.
    UpF black border widens at apex.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sp...a-lavendularis
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...c133147f-1.jpg
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    4. female Jamides alecto.
    Although the last white stria on the FW hangs free, this is not an absolute feature for J. caeruleus.
    On the HW the striae 1 & 2 connects with the same striae in the cell so that the basal band is uninterrupted.
    UnF white striae are all rather broad.
    https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/J...aMFUpUnAC1.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...fe59a6fd-1.jpg
    female.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...bdea43d9-1.jpg


    J. elpis. FW white striae narrow; in female inner two striae narrow.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...40d95c44-1.jpg
    Female Singapore.
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...obby%20Mun.jpg

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    5. Udara dilecta.
    All the spots are pale. Ground colour white.
    Note HW post discal spots 6 & 7 are equally pale.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...ad86d289-1.jpg
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    6. Celastrina iynteata. Correction: Celastrina argiolus iynteana.
    Note HW spot 7 is darker & blacker.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...62f17bb5-1.jpg
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    7. Dsf Ypthima 5-ring.
    The diuble curve outer fascia strongly suggest Y. methora.
    https://indiabiodiversity.org/files-...153210/648.JPG


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    #1 is Thoressa gupta. There's no proper pic on the internet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nawab View Post
    #1 is Thoressa gupta. There's no proper pic on the internet.

    You are quite right.
    There are three of those obscure Thoressa species in the area which are quite similar.

    Thoressa aina.
    UpF spots are distinctly yellow, the cellspot prominent.
    https://archive.org/details/journalo...p?view=theater
    Fig 8.
    https://archive.org/details/journalo...p?view=theater



    Thoressa fusca.
    Twin cellspots may be absent.
    Male brand very obscure.
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91245001.html


    Thoressa gupta.
    Twin cellspot may be absent.
    Male brand prominent with two spots.
    UnH plain or vaguely spotted.
    Fig 1.
    https://archive.org/details/journalo...p?view=theater


    From China.
    Colour plate III Page 164- 165.
    Fig 4 - 7 T. gupta.
    Fig 8- 9 T. fusca.
    https://www.zobodat.at/pdf/Neue-Ento..._0003-0114.pdf



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