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Thread: ID help with Caerulean, please!

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    Default ID help with Caerulean, please!

    Dear Dr Seow,

    Please confirm if these are Common Caerulean?


    DSC_3606.jpg-(800).jpg
    DSC_3593.jpg-(800).jpg

    Thanks,

    Regards
    Cheng Ai

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    There are both Jamides celeno.

    J. celeno Upperside male with a broad black border.
    UnH white striae arrangement very variable.
    Black spot with the silvery bars irregular or absent.
    https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pr...hH6gN3prCzpzMQ
    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Z1iOzC1ws...t_Bobby_01.jpg

    Of the other two similer spp. recorded in Singapore.

    Jamides pura ?extinct.
    Upperside male with a thin black border.
    UnH white striae always seem to be well arranged.
    Black spot with prominent silvery side-bars.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me..._7/a-29242.jpg
    https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5494/...65d57a1b_c.jpg


    Jamides malaccanus.
    Male upperside brilliant blue.
    UnH white striae all of equal length & reaching the upper margin ,forming 3 complete bands.
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...20-%20Khew.jpg


    TL Seow; Cheers.

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    Noted with thanks, Dr Seow.

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    A single pic taken by Federick years ago suggest strongly that J. pura is extant in Singapore.

    This female have FW submarginal spots lunulate, spot large.
    The silvery side bars on the HW black spot is less prominent but this is a variable feature.
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_0EK80AsaR7...-Caerulean.jpg


    Compare with a typical Singaporean female J. celeno .
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...20-%20Khew.jpg


    Compare to a female J. pura from Thailand.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me..._7/a-29245.jpg


    TL Seow: Cheers.
    Last edited by Psyche; 18-Jun-2021 at 11:11 PM.

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