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    Dr Seow, please help with the ID of this Telicota, thanks


    Last edited by itsmemei; 24-Oct-2020 at 06:30 PM.
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    Female Telicota augias.

    First thing is to ID the sex.
    Female, longer profile shape, sharper apex, & abdominal end with a slight cleft.

    Eliminating the possibilities.

    Female T. colon: FW spot 4 & 5 not aligned , staggered like a stepladder (may be distorted); Face is paler.
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-oK76RoQgG7.../s1600/023.jpg


    Female T. linna.; FW spots 4 & 5 aligned; Face & lower part of abdomen paler. HW veins not dark-dusted.
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec..._female_02.jpg


    Female T. besta. FW spots 4 & 5 aligned ; Face is paler.
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec..._female_01.jpg


    Female T. augias. :FW spots 4 & 5 aligned; More uniformly orange, face not paler.
    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oeax9BCEj...ias_female.jpg



    TL Seow: Cheers.

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    Thanks, Dr Seow!
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    Confusion is very easy with poor shots & worn individuals.

    Here is another that should be correct as a female T. augias.
    https://alchetron.com/cdn/telicota-7...resize-750.jpg


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    Dear Dr Seow, here is another hesperiid that needs ID help. Only managed to get the underside. Thanks!

    Last edited by itsmemei; 27-Oct-2020 at 11:26 AM.
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    Post 10.

    This is a fine professional shot.
    No problem here.

    Male Baoris oceia.


    Baoris is easily confused with Caltoris.
    The FW is longer & more imposing, especially in the male ( ie. extending out more from the HW.).
    The antennal shaft is mostly black, the pale area seen in some Caltoris is absent or obscure.
    The HW often have a vague pale area around the cellend.
    The abdomen is obscurely banded.


    Caltoris cormasa male for comparison.
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-BHjCrmr1v...eclosed_01.jpg



    Baoris farri :Browner, lighter. More often with a full complement of spots.
    Male FW less sinuous , the lower half margin straighter, less excavate.
    B. oceia does not occur in China or India, so examples of B. farri from there are more reliable.
    Yunnan.
    https://live.staticflickr.com/8293/7...d63b4cb4_b.jpg
    India.
    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...h_Swift_10.jpg
    Male & female , Singapore.
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jE5CT4nr9...i_adult_03.jpg
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-x-06hY8OE...er_Hern_01.jpg


    Baoris oceia: Darker brown; FW spots more often reduced in numbers.
    Male FW lower margin excavate, giving a more sinuous curve.
    Males 3, 1 female Singapore.
    https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...770a106c_b.jpg
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...ift---Khew.jpg
    https://www.besgroup.org/wp-content/...d-dropping.jpg
    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-zofygsdg7...oris+oceia.jpg


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    Last edited by Psyche; 27-Oct-2020 at 11:53 PM.

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    Thanks, Dr Seow
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