ID request for Potanthus

[Ngangom Aomoa]

Please ID the following butterflies, which I believe belongs to Potanthus, after seeing an interesting discussion on Potanthus in this forum.
All photos taken in North East India. Same specimen has been given same numerical value.

1a
1a.jpg
1b
1b.jpg

2
2.JPG

3a
3a.jpg
3b
3b.JPG

4a
4a.JPG
4b
4b.JPG

5
5.JPG

6a
6a.JPG
6b
6b.JPG

7a
7a.JPG
7b
7b.JPG

8
8.JPG

9a
9a.JPG
9b
9b.JPG
9c
9c.JPG

Thanks
Aomoa

[Psyche]

1 a & b.

Telicota ohara jix female.

Note there is no HW spot 6 nor spot 7 (as with all Telicota).

Telicota ohara .
Male brand very narrow & straight. base of space 2 dark, without the orange patch.
Underside often dark tinged & may or may not be heavily dark shaded.
Band width can varies.
IDed by the UnH band's inner margin being almost straight without the deep notch/indentation seen in other species.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/92950010.html
India male.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/monsoo...n/photostream/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/monsoo...n/photostream/
Two examples showing variation in dark shading, Taiwan.
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Xxe57_94L...00/H28-1-1.jpg
http://www.g12e.com/upload/html/2006...1181230678.jpg

[Psyche]

2, 3a & 3b.
Probably Potanthus pseudomaesa clio.

Potanthus are extremely difficult.
The bands can be broad or narrow & the underside may be light (DSF) or heavily marked.

Potanthus pseudomaesa .
FW dpotd 4 & 5 with no overlap above & minimal overlap /or none below with spot 3.
Spots 2 & 3 relatively broad ,outer margins slightly concave.
Abdominal end black banded /or a black patch.
Underside band edged with dark spots. UnH band upper end projected out 1/3 from spot 3.
3a shows a very heavily marked underside.

Examples from S. India & Sri Lanka ssp pseudomaesa.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...1a69905b-3.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...1a69905b-4.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...deea639e-1.jpg
Sri Lanka
https://slbutterflies.lk/storage/app...1492795816.JPG
HK ssp clio
https://images5.fotop.net/albums/but...seudomaesa.jpg
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/92740010.html


Vry similar.
P. trachala larger species.
FW spots 4 & 5 typically fully detached.
FW band very narrow so that spots 2 & 3 quadrate, strongly crescentic (less in female)
UnH upper end of band project out a bit more to about 1/2 of spot 3.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/92730010.html
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-xp54_a5Xd...Bupperside.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8c/bd...b0db7b591d.jpg
https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec..._female_01.jpg
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-d1uwxt7AT...s_trachala.jpg


P. pallida.
FW spots 4 & 5 typically fully detached ,upper end widely.
Spots 2 & 3 wider ,with straight margin
FW band strongly divided by black veins.
Male & female.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...0cb8964d_o.jpg
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-K_9vR_LQ-...Untitled-1.jpg

P. lydia.
FW spots 4 & 5 fully detached above , minimal below.
FW spots 2 & 3 wide, while spot 1b narrow.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/92830001.html
http://www.samuibutterflies.com/expe...otanthuslydia/

[Psyche]

4 a & b.

Potanthus rectifasciatus.
FW band almost alignrd in astraight line.
HW spot 6 very large , larger than spot 7 .
Variable dark shadings/spots.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/33212211@N00/26941566369
https://www.flickr.com/photos/33212211@N00/48792272743

[Psyche]

5. Potanthus confucius. Correction: Potanthus nesta.
Male upperside band continious uninterrupted, no dark veins; HW spot 6 absent/or small.
Abdominal end mainly yellow.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/92790010.html
https://lh6.ggpht.com/eNtnj34Lxd42Ap...SR2wKCloQ=s580
Ssp diana.
https://alchetron.com/cdn/potanthus-...esize-750.jpeg




6a & b

Telicota bambusae bambusae.
Note HW no spot 6 or 7.
FW brand straight.Base of space 2 dark.
Underside greenish.(not always in field shots)
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...Saji_ad012.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...Saji_ad013.jpg

[Psyche]

7a & b.

Probably Potanthus mingo.

This belongs to a group in which the FW band spots 2 .# & 1b are relatively wide ,forming a compact band.

They include P. ganda. & p.omaha, both with a yellow abdominal end.
P. juno usually with spot 8 absent or vestigial.
P. mingo is recognised from them by the black banded abdominal end & heavier UnH markings..
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/92810010.html
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-tFtROXZYi...us%2Bmingo.JPG
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-lQGrUAdKo...0/_MG_1529.jpg


8. P. rectifasciatus ;Note FW straight band & HW large spot 6.

[Psyche]

9 a, b, & c.

P. trachala female.

The wingshape in 9a is that of a female.
FW spots 4 & 5 are fully detached.
Underside as in P. trachala.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/92730010.html



TL Seow:Cheers.

[Psyche]

Correction

No. 5 is Potanthus nesta
FW band continuous as in P. confucius.
HW band upper part not projecting out & its margin is level & straight.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/92800001.html


TL Seow: Cheers.

[Ngangom Aomoa]

Thank you a lot for your help. Now I know where and what to look for to id these difficult group of species, but still far from being confident. So, here are some more which I think are Potantus, requesting for your help.

But before that, if you could tell how to differentiate between Potanthus, Telicota and Oriens. Maybe too basic, but because of pandemic, I am stuck in a place without my books on butterflies.

Some more for Id.

10a North East (NE) India, September
1 (1).JPG
10b
1 (2).JPG
10c
1 (3).JPG

11 NE India, September
2.JPG

12a NE India, November (really bad photos)
3 (1).JPG
12b
3 (2).JPG

13 NE India, February
4.JPG

14a NE India, October
5 (1).JPG
14b
5 (2).JPG

15a NE India, July
6 (1).JPG
15b
6 (2).JPG

Warm regards
Aomoa

[Psyche]

Potanthus.
HW with a band , a cellspot & a spot in space 7 (typically rectangular UnH), sometimes a smaller spot in space 6
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...cdb1b635-1.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...c01d250e-2.jpg

Telicota.
HW with the band & a cellspot; no spot in space 7.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wU0gNp51E...Horace-Tan.jpg


Oriens .
HW with only the band present.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...Z39NA&usqp=CAU
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-g9JVWqIU_...monDartlet.jpg