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    Thank you, sir. Looks right, but the antennal club is very different. Here's my Ochlodes brahma for comparison.

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    In the post 89 shot there is a severe perspective distortion.

    The antenna & wings are stretched out to the left & right as in a wide-angle shot.


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    That is possible, thank you sir!
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    In response to Post 89.
    The confusion grows. I found another individual but without HW spots, same place and same date and time. But I had apparently IDed this as Pedesta pandita, so was in a different folder. This leads me to think that Post 89 was same species with HW spots. Angle distortion seems weird since I have many pics of these individuals with same morphology. Could you share your thoughts, sir?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nawab View Post
    Some Pedesta?
    Attachment 26910
    Both shots show the same distortion ie the body is too long.

    I think if the camera is set on wide angle for scenery shots, using the macro mode for closeup would cause the subject to be stretched out laterally ie left & right.
    However, I will need a camera pro to comment on this.

    It is possible both are of the same species.

    In pic post 89 it is definitely a male (abdominal end, FW rounded apex & straight termen)
    P. pandita can be ruled out as the male antenna is tipped orange & have a white spot.
    Male P. pandita.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...00375cb7-2.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...53f557fe-1.jpg
    Female ;FW apex more pointed, termen convex, longer body profile.Antenna without a white dot.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...529b5547-1.jpg


    P. panda is not known to have HW spot.
    It does not look quite right for Ochlodes brahma.


    In a search for something similar, this appear to match Pedesta (Thoressa) masuriensis tali.
    In the taxon tali the FW spots are yellow & the HW range from spotless to a variable number. The antenna is more gradual.
    You may download the pdf, page 199, images 14 (spotless HW) & 15.
    Not sure if this is possible. Zobodat pdf article.
    https://www.google.com/search?q=note...hrome&ie=UTF-8

    Author Hao Huang state that tali is so different that it is probably a different species.
    HOwever it is found farther to the east in Sichuan & Yunnan.


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    Last edited by Psyche; 07-Apr-2021 at 06:05 PM.

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    Thank you, sir. I found a similar variant of Pedesta recently. Comparison with typical Pedesta masuriensis given for reference.
    Typical Pedesta masuriensis.
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    1b.
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    HW spots missing, upper FW spots less compact, and background more brownish, almost like in P. pandita.
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    Could you look at this Neptis as well, sir? It seems like Neptis capnodes pandoces to me.
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    Pedesta masuriensis tali is also elevated to full species as Pedesta tali.

    You can see both here.
    Fig 46 & 47 ( underside) P. masuriensis.

    Fig 48 & 49 (underside) P. tali.
    The underside often have 3 spots here rather diffuse.

    https://zenodo.org/record/3990965#.YHMMQB8zaUk



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    Last edited by Psyche; 12-Apr-2021 at 11:34 AM.

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    Post 97.

    Agreed. It should be Neptis capnodes.

    4 species are somewhat similar.

    FW submarginal spots gently curved at apex; FW postdiscal spots rounded & well separated.
    HW discal band of nearly uniform width.
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720190010.html
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720120010.html


    FW submarginal spots distinctly bent in at apex; FW postdiscal spots may be large & close.

    1. Neptis capnodes
    : HW discal band of nearly uniform width.
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720170010.html

    2. Neptis soma ;HW discal band broader at costa.
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720180010.html


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    Last edited by Psyche; 12-Apr-2021 at 06:27 PM.

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    Many thanks, sir. Could you check this Rapala as well? I think this is Rapala tara but the tornal spot isn't very much diffused. Maybe R. damona?
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