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    Thank you for further clarification, sir. Would this one be Burara anadi?

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    Post 26.

    Yes, this should be Burara anadi.
    In the 2nd pic, the HW discal patch is composed of streak which extend into space 7.

    B. anadi
    HW discal patch composed of streaks including in space 7.
    HW orange cilia reaching vein 7.
    Orange less pronounced, & abdominal end partly brown.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...kare_am888.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...438f16cf-1.jpg

    B. jaina.
    HW discal patch of streaks not in space 7.
    HW orange cilia reaching vein 7 & abdominal end broadly orange.
    A FW white cellspot may be oresent.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...Saji_ae601.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...gale_ab508.jpg


    B. harisa ;
    HW discal patch broadly streaky & away from the cellend ; HW orange cilia reaching vein 5.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...54d618b7-1.jpg


    B. oedipodea.
    HW discal patch solid & away from the cellend.
    HW orange cilia reaching vein 6.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...umar_aa348.jpg


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    Last edited by Psyche; 19-Sep-2020 at 12:41 AM.

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    Many thanks for the great keys, sir. I think these are Polytremis discreta discreta and Celaenorrhinus putra putra. Could you confirm?

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    Post 28.

    1. Polytremis discreta (also placed in a new genus Zenonoida.)
    HW tornal cilia white.


    2. Celaenorrhinus putra.

    I have only just beginning to understand the complexities of C. leucocera & putra which was so confusing in the past.

    C. leucocera; Range India to SE Asia mainland.
    FW dorsum (lower margin) > (greater than ) termen (outer margin).
    FW termen convex ,apex more rounded.
    Discal band generally extend beyond the radius (upper arm of the FW cell).
    HW cilia broadly whitish, chequered.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...83f5bfab-1.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...a_7/tbe745.jpg
    Form with the FW discal band barely extending beyond the radius.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...e37e1306-1.jpg


    C. putra ;Range Sundaland ,SE Asia to NE India, Assam, Sikkim , Nepal.
    FW produced, FW dorsum = termen.
    FW termen straighter & in the male noticeably sharper.
    FW discal band rarely extend beyond the radius.
    HW cila narrowly whitish, less prominent.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...9424190283.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...1ce2f7a9-1.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...36b525ba-1.jpg

    The early entomologist amassed drawersful of specimens, yet no record of C. putra was given to South India.
    Nor does the checklist for Bangladesh include this species.
    Yet many shots from S. India are atributed to C. putra based on the appearance of the discal band.

    Separating the species in set specimens was not so difficult as seen in the links below.
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/90470001.html
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/90480010.html

    All sightings of C. putra in S. India are likely erroneous.
    Genitalia shown are doubtful. They depict the left clasp of two different specimens, showing only the outside of the clasps.Correction: Images correctly shows the right clasp & inside.
    Genitalia need to show the right clasp with the detail of the inside ,which may have additional features.
    Evans made no mention of genitalia difference between the two species.


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    Last edited by Psyche; 20-Sep-2020 at 08:45 PM.

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    Many thanks once again, sir. This one looks like Pithauria murdava at first glance, however looking closer, it looks like a darker form of Pithauria stramineipennis. Central Nepal, and P. murdava was recorded from the east only. All my P. stramineipennis have prolific straw colored clothing on FW and HW unlike in this one.

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    Post 30.

    It is P. murdava female.
    The 2nd pic shows the underside of the left FW completely dark.
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91440001.html

    The UnF in P. stamineipennis have a large pale area.
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91430001.html



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    Last edited by Psyche; 20-Sep-2020 at 08:16 AM.

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    Sir, could you look at this Melanitis? It is monsoon here, and these species are supposed to be WSF. But this one is weird. It's either a DSF M. leda or Melanitis zitenius zitenius which I've never seen and is supposed to be found in the east only. Can we get dsf in monsoon? Found near paddy field like any Melanitis.

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