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    Hello sir. How have you been? Could you please look at these species for me?
    1. Neptis miah? A little abnormal.
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    2. Rohana tonkiniana? Was larger in size.

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    3. R. parisatis? Was much smaller.
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    4. Lethe kansa?
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    5. Caltoris sirius? Was a female. I have a genialia image if required.
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    Sir, could you also check this Euploea sp. along with the above ones?
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    Post 150.

    1. Neptis ananta.

    Three species in which the the FW submarginal band is largely greyish can be confusing.

    Neptis miah.
    Fw subapical band entire (not divided) & connected to the postdiscal spots.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...95f9895ec1.jpg


    The other two have the subapical band divided & also separated from the postdiscal spots.

    Neptis ananta.
    FW with spot 6 of the subapical fascia much wider in the upper half.
    Cell bar not so strongly notched at cellend.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...9cdbf8f5-1.jpg


    Neptis namba.
    FW with spot 6 of the subapical fascia narrow & only slightly broad in the upper half.
    Cell bar strongly notched at the cellend.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...11/a-28770.jpg

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    Post 150 . 2 & 3.


    I supposed Rohana tonkiniana has recently been recorded in Nepal.

    I think you have these in reverse.


    These two are very similar.

    R. parisatis.
    Male UpF ground colour uniformly black.
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/apa/750010020.html

    R. tonkiniana.
    UpF ground colour paler at the apical margin.
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/apa/750020010.html


    The difference can only be seen in the fieldshots at the bottom of each webpage.
    Last edited by Psyche; 04-Sep-2021 at 07:51 PM.

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    Post 150.

    5. More lightly the female of Caltoris brunnea.


    C. sirius is ochreous brown on the underside & the upper cellspot tend to be small or even absent.
    Male have a spot in sdpace 1b UpF as in the female.
    There are two pix in this pdf file on Butts in Tripura.
    https://www.scielo.cl/pdf/rche/v47n1...e-47-01-35.pdf
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93280001.html

    C. brunnea have two large FW cellspots & is purplish brown on the underside.
    Male have a brand as in Pelopidas.
    Male.
    https://www.neutron.phys.ethz.ch/Lep...Az11-1092R.jpg
    https://www.neutron.phys.ethz.ch/Lep...Az11-1092V.jpg
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93260010.html
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    Post 151.

    This matched very well with E. algea deione.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...956c86f4-1.jpg


    The next closest.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...b4b8aedb-1.jpg



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    Thank you so much, sir. Could you look at this Ypthima as well. No fascia at all. Y. kasmira?

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    Post 157.

    Ypthima huebneri.
    On the FW the discal fascia to the inside of the ocellus is visible. The submarginal fascia is also prominent.


    Evans states of kasmira, 'Below all fasciae obsolete.'
    Only the submarginal fascia may be vaguely seen.

    Y. kasmira.
    Dsf & semi-dsf. Pakistan.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/20384944
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/20364620

    Wsf.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...bed2a752-1.jpg


    Perhaps a DNA analysis is needed to see if Y. kasmira deserves to be a full species.

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    Thank you, sir. I think I have some nice Celaenorrhinus spp. here.

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