Doubtful IDs from Nepal

[Nawab]

Sir, could you look at these Caltoris please? I believe the third one is Caltoris cahira which is common in Nepal and has brown underside but the other ones have almost reddish undersides.
1a
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1b
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2a
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2b
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3
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[Psyche]

I presumed you are certain that 1a & 1b are the same insect since the colour difference is quite marked.

I will go thru the Caltoris with two FW cellspots again.

C. bromus ;FW UnF usually a spot 1b (Evans state always but ths is not true.)
UnH dark brown overlaid with ochreous scales; Female may have spots in space 2 & 3.

Male showing no UpF spot 1b but a UnF spot 1b.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...e290e3d3-1.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...e290e3d3-2.jpg
1st male Taiwan with upper FW cellspot missing. (Note Taiwan have only two species C. bromus & cahira. Correction: a 3rd C. ranrunna is known.))
http://idv.sinica.edu.tw/ynsu/photo/...-DSC_7726.html
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pr...UGgeJ9FPlVH8dE
Females.Taiwan
https://eoldata.taibif.tw/files/eold...52/h34-2-1.jpg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/537477...n/photostream/
https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2813...c2551d54_b.jpg


C. cahira austeni.UnF male no spot 1b
UnH uniformly darker brown or chocolate.
Male P. Malaysia
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gancw1/21680122591
Sikkim
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...60bdb11a-1.jpg
Taiwan
http://butterfly-taiwan.blogspot.com/2011/08/h34-1.html
Female Singapore.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7l1dr3n_gK...ris+bromus.jpg
Female Taiwan.
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8170/...48f3ce8b_z.jpg


C. brunnea; Male with brand similar to Pelopidas.
UnH deep purple brown .
Male.
https://www.neutron.phys.ethz.ch/Lep...Az11-1092R.jpg
https://www.neutron.phys.ethz.ch/Lep...Az11-1092V.jpg
http://www.samuibutterflies.com/inse...sbrunneacaere/


C. tenuis Body with greenish hair & UnH with greenish scales.
Paschimbanga
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caltor...B_DSC_4180.jpg


C. cormasa; UpF with upper cellspot absent or tiny.
UnH with deeper reddish brown tone; Spots tend to yellowish.
Singapore.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-1mxC9fmsG...C_field_02.jpg
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-TjKxWVHrQ...herHern_01.jpg
Female P. Malaysia.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-dg1jseJPJ2...0/DSC_0115.JPG


C. chimdroa ; cilia bright yellow.


C. sirius: UpF with a spot 1b in both sexes.
UnH ochreous brown
Probable Caltoris sirius. UpF & UnF shows a distinct spot 1b.
C. bromus male occasionally shows a spot 1b UpF & below but it is diffuse.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/266891...7624014448123/


C. confusa ; Dark brown
FW spots reduced especially upper cellspot & spot 3 may be absent.
Probable C. confusa ,Arunachal Pradesh,
There is a great reduction of spots ie upper cellspot is missing, spot 3 is tiny & subapical spot 7 a dot.
The colour is not reddish as in C. cormasa, nor deep brown as in C. bromus or cahira .
https://www.flickr.com/photos/26689187@N00/4644367365

[Psyche]

Post 147.

1 should be C. bromus.
Although there is no UnF spot 1b, the UnH brown is not dark enough in pic 1b to indicate C. cahira.


2 is very unusual in that the 3 subapical spots are in line.
FW upper cellspot is much reduced but this can happen in both C. bromus & cahira.
The darke shading on UnH is uneven & much as in this male C. bromus.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...e290e3d3-1.jpg
Probably male C. bromus.


3. UnF & UnH are evenly brown
UnF spot 3 & upper cellspot are almost obsolete.
Uncertain. Perhaps C. confusa.

TL Seow : Cheers.

[Nawab]

Hello sir. How have you been? Could you please look at these species for me?
1. Neptis miah? A little abnormal.
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2.jpg
2. Rohana tonkiniana? Was larger in size.

3.jpg
3. R. parisatis? Was much smaller.
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4. Lethe kansa?
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5. Caltoris sirius? Was a female. I have a genialia image if required.
5.jpg
6.jpg

[Nawab]

Sir, could you also check this Euploea sp. along with the above ones?
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[Psyche]

Post 150.

1. Neptis ananta.

Three species in which the the FW submarginal band is largely greyish can be confusing.

Neptis miah.
Fw subapical band entire (not divided) & connected to the postdiscal spots.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...95f9895ec1.jpg


The other two have the subapical band divided & also separated from the postdiscal spots.

Neptis ananta.
FW with spot 6 of the subapical fascia much wider in the upper half.
Cell bar not so strongly notched at cellend.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...9cdbf8f5-1.jpg


Neptis namba.
FW with spot 6 of the subapical fascia narrow & only slightly broad in the upper half.
Cell bar strongly notched at the cellend.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...11/a-28770.jpg

[Psyche]

Post 150 . 2 & 3.


I supposed Rohana tonkiniana has recently been recorded in Nepal.

I think you have these in reverse.


These two are very similar.

R. parisatis.
Male UpF ground colour uniformly black.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/apa/750010020.html

R. tonkiniana.
UpF ground colour paler at the apical margin.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/apa/750020010.html


The difference can only be seen in the fieldshots at the bottom of each webpage.

[Psyche]

Post150.
4. Lethe kansa is right.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...ab14f764-1.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...4598a87c-1.jpg

[Psyche]

Post 150.

5. More lightly the female of Caltoris brunnea.


C. sirius is ochreous brown on the underside & the upper cellspot tend to be small or even absent.
Male have a spot in sdpace 1b UpF as in the female.
There are two pix in this pdf file on Butts in Tripura.
https://www.scielo.cl/pdf/rche/v47n1...e-47-01-35.pdf
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93280001.html

C. brunnea have two large FW cellspots & is purplish brown on the underside.
Male have a brand as in Pelopidas.
Male.
https://www.neutron.phys.ethz.ch/Lep...Az11-1092R.jpg
https://www.neutron.phys.ethz.ch/Lep...Az11-1092V.jpg
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93260010.html

[Psyche]

Post 151.

This matched very well with E. algea deione.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...956c86f4-1.jpg


The next closest.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...b4b8aedb-1.jpg



TL Seow: Cheers.