Page 4 of 5 FirstFirst ... 2345 LastLast
Results 31 to 40 of 47

Thread: Doubtful IDs from Nepal

  1. #31
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Malaysia
    Posts
    5,631

    Default

    Post 30.

    It is P. murdava female.
    The 2nd pic shows the underside of the left FW completely dark.
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91440001.html

    The UnF in P. stamineipennis have a large pale area.
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91430001.html



    TL Seow: Cheers.
    Last edited by Psyche; 20-Sep-2020 at 08:16 AM.

  2. #32
    Join Date
    Apr 2020
    Location
    Pokhara, Nepal
    Posts
    48

    Default

    Sir, could you look at this Melanitis? It is monsoon here, and these species are supposed to be WSF. But this one is weird. It's either a DSF M. leda or Melanitis zitenius zitenius which I've never seen and is supposed to be found in the east only. Can we get dsf in monsoon? Found near paddy field like any Melanitis.

    13.jpg
    Sajan KC

  3. #33
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Malaysia
    Posts
    5,631

    Default

    Post 32.

    Melanitis leda.

    DSF can occur in areas with no defined dry season.
    Singapore , WSF, Intermediate, DSF.
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-UnL4l5zKh...19762488_n.jpg
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...ederick_01.jpg
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gWT7bXJwg...lt_Khew_02.jpg

    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/sat/40010001.html


    M. zitenius can be recognised at once by the longer tail at vein 4 ,being about 3X that at vein 2.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...s-1080x675.jpg
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/sat/40030010.html


    TL Seow: Cheers.

  4. #34
    Join Date
    Apr 2020
    Location
    Pokhara, Nepal
    Posts
    48

    Default

    Thank you, sir. That's what I thought, but here we have a defined dry season. December to May. But I suppose, this somehow got left out.
    Sajan KC

  5. #35
    Join Date
    Apr 2020
    Location
    Pokhara, Nepal
    Posts
    48

    Default

    Okay, I know this is Celastrina gigas, but I need some concrete keys to convince people. Sir, any help?

    14.jpg
    Sajan KC

  6. #36
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Malaysia
    Posts
    5,631

    Default

    Post 35.

    This is a real tough one since there are hardly any description of C. gigas except one in German.

    There also DSF whch can look quite different.

    Of the Celastrina species in your area, they can be divided into groups.

    1, HW postdiscal marks comprise rounded spots & short bars.

    C. lavendularis.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterfl...-lavendularis/
    C. hersilia.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...a-hersilia.jpg


    2. HW postdiscal marks reduced to small rounded spots.


    C. huegelii.
    Underside medium grey ;submarginal & marginal spots relatively well-formed except towards the apex.
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/angiud/49144973403
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celast...sMFUpUnAC1.jpg


    C. argiolus.
    Submarginal & marginal spots weak often faded especially on the HW.
    Ssp iynteata. Underside geyish white.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterfl...rina-argiolus/
    Ssp kollari. Underside cream white Marginal & submarginal spots on both wing often faded out.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...5b3edcc7-1.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...164a70e4-1.jpg

    C. gigas.
    The only description is German.
    https://archive.org/stream/mitteilun...e/608/mode/1up

    A rough Google translation yield only the base is moss green like C. oreas.
    Evans also describe this as C. ladonides gigas.
    It so happens both these two have more greenish bases.
    See link below for both species.
    http://www.lycaenidae.gmxhome.de/Lyc...rina-index.htm

    From the BOI website the only other diffrent Celastrina has to be C. gigas.

    C; gigas.
    Underside pale greyish white, the submarginal & marginal marks weak but present. Base ? greenish.
    FW submarginal lunules in space 1b & 2 more broadly diffuse & linked continuously.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...807eb92c-1.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...018f1fa1-2.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...da4c987f-1.jpg


    Your image looks to be correct.


    TL Seow: Cheers.
    Last edited by Psyche; 23-Sep-2020 at 06:55 AM.

  7. #37
    Join Date
    Apr 2020
    Location
    Pokhara, Nepal
    Posts
    48

    Default

    Sir, is this Aeromachus kali or A. pygmaeus?

    16.jpg

    17.jpg
    Sajan KC

  8. #38
    Join Date
    Apr 2020
    Location
    Pokhara, Nepal
    Posts
    48

    Default

    These 2 individuals were found at 4300 ft. along with Ypthima sakra. They looked different than usual Ypthima baldus, rather dull scales without any shine. Are they still Y. baldus?
    1a
    2.jpg

    1b
    3.jpg

    2
    4.jpg
    Sajan KC

  9. #39
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Malaysia
    Posts
    5,631

    Default

    Post 37.
    You have two species here.

    1. is A. pygmaeus.The antennal club is rounded & drumstick like.
    UnH tornus no white marginal spot.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...3f20ddf4-1.jpg

    A. kali ;HW tornus with a whitish marginal spot. Antennal club longer & gradual.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...akar_an949.jpg
    https://biodiversity.bt/biodiv/obser...b/946_gall.jpg


    2. Probably A. jhora. Antennal club gradual UpF almost unmarked.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...1a770739-4.jpg
    A. dubius.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...unte_aa891.jpg

  10. #40
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Malaysia
    Posts
    5,631

    Default

    Post 38.
    Y. baldus.
    Very worn with total loss of cilia.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...unte_ah911.jpg


    TL Seow: Cheers.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Join us