Doubtful IDs from Nepal

[Psyche]

Post 89.

It should be Ochlodes brahma.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...8936be426b.jpg
O. siva have black lined spots.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/#!/tx/334-Ochlodes


Pedesta masuriensis have white FW spots.
P. panda & pandita have obscure or obsolete HW spots.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/tx/304-Pedesta


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[Nawab]

Thank you, sir. Looks right, but the antennal club is very different. Here's my Ochlodes brahma for comparison.

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[Psyche]

In the post 89 shot there is a severe perspective distortion.

The antenna & wings are stretched out to the left & right as in a wide-angle shot.


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[Nawab]

That is possible, thank you sir!

[Nawab]

In response to Post 89.
The confusion grows. I found another individual but without HW spots, same place and same date and time. But I had apparently IDed this as Pedesta pandita, so was in a different folder. This leads me to think that Post 89 was same species with HW spots. Angle distortion seems weird since I have many pics of these individuals with same morphology. Could you share your thoughts, sir?
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[Psyche]

In response to Post 89.
The confusion grows. I found another individual but without HW spots, same place and same date and time. But I had apparently IDed this as Pedesta pandita, so was in a different folder. This leads me to think that Post 89 was same species with HW spots. Angle distortion seems weird since I have many pics of these individuals with same morphology. Could you share your thoughts, sir?
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I have just read through Evans' description of Pedesta & realised there are some confusion between P. panda & pandita.


Pedesta panda; FW spot in space 3 (spot 3) small & well-separated from the cellspot. Spot 2 is close to the cellspot.
Spots yellow.
Note FW subapical spots large & in line. Antennal tip orange without a white dot.

https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...5919ed5f-2.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...5919ed5f-1.jpg

https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...98ae8596-1.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...98ae8596-2.jpg

MisIDed.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...2bd23ca2-1.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...2bd23ca2-2.jpg




Pedesta pandita. FW spot 2 well-separated from the cellspot. Likewise so would spot 3.
Darker brown above & spots pale yellowish.
Note FW subapical spots smaller & tapering. Antennal tip orange with a white dot.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...00375cb7-1.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...00375cb7-2.jpg

Variant with spot 2 & 3 not overlapping.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...53f557fe-2.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...53f557fe-1.jpg

Correction: Both examples of P. pandita are actually Thoressa hyrie.

The large subapical spots & antennal tip orange , without a white dot ID'ed this as Pandita panda. Correction: Conclusion in error.


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[Nawab]

Many thanks for looking into it, sir. So, Pedesta pandita, both male and female, have white dot on antennae? This means most of the IDs on ifoundbutterflies are incorrect and P. panda possibly extends further west from Nagaland, up to Nepal.

[Nawab]

Post 94. Page 10.
Sir, I just realized this could be a Sovia grahami.

[Psyche]

Post 94. Page 10.
Sir, I just realized this could be a Sovia grahami.

Quite right.
Long body & gradual antenna.


I thought all Sovia were heavily spotted like S. albipecta.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-MXwJjTYriK...reast+Ace).jpg



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PS.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...bea010aa-1.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...3dbb4038-2.jpg

[Psyche]

In response to Post 89.
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Both Sovia lucasi & separata have chequered cilia.

The underside of S. grahami is stated to be ochreous brown in FW apex costa & HW.

The underside of S. malta FW apex, costa & HW is ferruginous ie rusty brown.

So it should be correctly S. grahami.


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