Doubtful IDs from Nepal

[Psyche]

Post 11.
Rapala varuna orseis.
The UnH postdiscal band broad ,double white-sided, it & the cellend bar almost/or touch.
The orange crown encircles the black spot.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...ee8ec913-1.jpg

In SE Asia the species is often strongly purple flushed.
https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...20Benedict.jpg


TL Seow; Cheers.

[Nawab]

Thank you, sir. Could you see if all these are Parnara bada? All were found in same location. 1500 masl, central Nepal, September.
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[Nawab]

Sir, could you look at these Caltoris cf. sirius also? I thought these were C. sirius but recently read that only Caltoris kumara, Caltoris bromus and Caltoris canaraica have unH spots 2 and 3. C. kumara is out, and I suppose so is C. canaraica, so are these all C. bromus and not C. sirius? 500 ft., southern central Nepal, July. All same location.

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[Psyche]

Post 13.


1 & 2.
Both 1 & 2 have UnH with a spot 6 present.
UpF with 1 with a lower cellspot & 2 with two cellspot.
Parnara guttata mangala. Correction Parnara bada aberration with 1 & 2 cellspots.


4 have no UpF cellspot & UnH with spots 2 - 5.
FW spots 2 & 3 quadrate sothe discal spots are spread out.
Parnara bada.


Parnara bada FW almost always without any cellspot (occa. a lower one)
FW spots 2 & 3 quadrate so the spots are wide apartUnH often with a spot 6.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93050001.html


P. guttata ;Usually 2 cellspot, often lower one absent, also may not any cellspot.
HW almost always with a spot 6. Correction: HW almost never with a spot 6.

P. ganga; FW cellspot occassionally with a lower cellspot.
HW without a spot 6 ; HW spots larger.
FW spot 2 & 3 rectangualr so all the spots are close.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93040001.html


P. apostata debdasi ;HW with a spot 6; UpF dark, spots 2 & 3 quadrate .spots are close together.
See pix in revision below.
https://www.researchgate.net/publica..._Asian_species



Post 14.
Has to be Caltoris bromus female.
There are no other species to consider.


TL Seow: Cheers.

[Nawab]

Post 13.
P. guttata ;Usually 2 cellspot, often upper one absent, also may not any cellspot.
HW almost always with a spot 6.

Thank you, sir. C. bromus is new to Nepal. I'm confused about P. guttata, I thought it almost never had HW spot 6 while you said "almost always with a spot 6."

[Psyche]

Thank you, sir. C. bromus is new to Nepal. I'm confused about P. guttata, I thought it almost never had HW spot 6 while you said "almost always with a spot 6."

Oops. You are right P. guttata almost never with a HW spot 6.

That means 1 & 2 could be either P. guttata with a HW spot 6 (very rare) or P. bada with cellspots ( one or two).

The aapearance with the FW spots widely spaced is that of P. bada .
Although there is no mention of P. bada with two cellspot it is always possible as an aberration.

P. guttata with two cellspots ,the lower one almost obsolete, spots close together, ; HW without spot 6.
https://v3.boldsystems.org/pics/HSPE...1276428550.JPG
https://v3.boldsystems.org/pics/HSPE...1276428576.JPG



TL Seow: Cheers.
PS examples of Parnara with cellspots in Maharastra ,Karnateka, S. India where only P. bada is known
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...7c7ba7bd-1.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...c7ba097a-1.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...ca70cada-1.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...e0043bd1-4.jpg

P. ganga range extend to Gujarat & Madhya Pradesh.

[Nawab]

Sir, could you tell me about Caltoris confusa? Can it have HW spots?