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    Post 50.


    Definitely Symbrenthia brabira.


    S. brabira ;Less black spotted ; FW postdiscal & discal black spots largely absent & reduced to narrow streaks.
    HW postdiscal spots quadrate ( squarish & flat-topped) )with less metallic green.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...e6c3177f-2.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...a57828f159.jpg


    S. hypselis ;More heavily marked; FW postdiscal & discal spots strongly developed.
    HW postdiscal spots elongate ,with prominent green metallic scales.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...46a1a58b-2.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...a_11/ap434.jpg



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    Thank you, Dr. Seow!
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    Prosotas bhutea?
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    Post 53.

    Yes. It is Prosotas bhutea.


    P. nora. HW submarginal & marginal spots of equal intensity. ie same degree of of blackness.
    FW postdiscal spots quadrate with straight sides.
    FW space 1b with a postdiscal spots & a sub-basal extension of the midcell band.
    All examples with the FW raised to show space 1b.
    India.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...7df154ffff.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...96a0ea22c6.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me..._7/a-28854.jpg
    Female.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...Saji_ac719.jpg



    Prosotas pia . HW submarginal spots weaker & more faded than the marginal spots.
    FW postdiscal spots quadrate with straight sides.
    FW space 1b with postdiscal spot & extension of the mid cell band (may be weaker).
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...unte_ai938.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...unte_ai937.jpg
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosot...tiMUpUnAC1.jpg
    Female Thailand ssp marginata.
    https://www.samuibutterflies.com/02_.../underside.jpg



    Prosotas bhutea.
    HW submarginal spots weaker than marginal spots (as in P. pia)
    FW postdiscal band composed of spots with rounded margins.
    FW space 1b with out a postdiscal spot nor an extension of the mid cell band.
    Wingbase more dark shaded.
    All examples with FW raised to show space 1b.
    P. bhutea bhutea Thailand.
    https://www.neutron.phys.ethz.ch/Lep...AZ11-0202V.jpg
    India.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...25cce173-1.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...41ededed-2.jpg


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    Weird Catochrysops. Never seen one like this before.
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    Post 55.

    I am afraid there is no match for this one.
    It is closest to Catochrysops panormus but a number of features are different.

    1. Should always have black HW spots in C. panormus although they may be faint in some examples.
    2. The orange crown is large & squarish here.
    3. The UpH always have a large black spot near the tail in C. panormus.

    C. panormus.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...09be2e8a-1.jpg
    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...s_panormus.JPG

    Similar but also with black spots.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chilad...id_female1.jpg

    No other genus around these or in Virachola. have similar marking,

    Probably a species from the Tibetan side.


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    Ok sir. I found it today and there were at least 2 of them there which is unusual for an aberration. I've been thinking it could be new to science. Let me know if you come across more information. The genus cannot be anything else than Catochrysops .
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    Catochrysops strabo strabo.


    Throughout continental Asia there are only two known species of Catochrysops.

    The dsf of C. strabo may loses all its black spots.

    The submarginal spots are a clue to its ID.

    In C. strabo, the submarginal spots have mostly straight margins & form a regular band.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...a1062969-1.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...22693b65-1.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...39547ddd-1.jpg

    In C. panormus, the submarginal spots are chevrons (shallow 'V's ) & form a zigzag band.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...42f2c200-1.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...e797a19e-1.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...6e67f80c-1.jpg


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    Thank you very much, sir. Could you please look at this Celastrina as well?
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    POst 59.

    Celastrina argiolus iynteana. male dsf.
    This the same as the mae from Nan below.
    Matching features are on the upperside.
    11. FW blue with a faint white discal patch.
    2. FW black border tapers down to tornus.
    3. HW more uniform blue with the veins not or barely darken.
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4/80860010.html

    The male C. gigas is uniformly darkish blue.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sp...lastrina-gigas

    The males of C. hersilia have the HW with the veins strongly darken,
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4/80863010.html

    The other males have a uniform blue FW without the faint white patch.
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4/80865010.html
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celast...sMFUpUnAC1.jpg


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