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    Default Id need confirmation

    Dear Dr. Seow Sir, please help me confirm identification of these following species...
    Thank you in advance...

    1. Spindasis syama?

    IMG_20200706_184937.jpg

    2. Flos adriana?

    IMG_20200706_184207.jpg

    3. Nacaduba hermus?

    IMG_20200706_185331.jpg

    4. Koruthaialos rubecula?

    IMG_20200706_201528.jpg

    IMG_20200706_185617.jpg

    5. Koruthaialos rubecula?

    IMG_20200706_184906.jpg

    6. Telicota augias?

    IMG_20200706_201847.jpg

    IMG_20200706_185424.jpg

    IMG_20200706_201930.jpg

    7. Neptis nata?

    IMG-20200706-WA0057.jpg

    IMG_20200706_185011.jpg

    8. Neptis sappho?

    IMG-20200706-WA0058.jpg

    IMG_20200706_185058.jpg

    9. Phaedyma columella?

    IMG_20200706_185146.jpg

    10. Neptis sp.?

    IMG_20200706_185212.jpg

    11. Neptis magadha?

    IMG_20200706_185238.jpg

    Cheers

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    1. Spindasis syama ; The colour, FW cell with a club mark, & the continuous outer two line & band.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...kare_al036.jpg

    Closest is S. zhengweilie in which the yellow ground zones are much wider than the bands.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sp...is-zhengweilie

    2. Arhopala adriana; There is a broken tail.

    The HW apex of A areste have a blackish shadings right to the margin..
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...a3f2891c-3.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...e1e09eae-1.jpg

    The dark shadings in A adrianado not quite reach the apical margin.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...rkar_as920.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...54a97b48-1.jpg

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    3. Nacaduba hermus.

    This & N. pavana may be confused.
    Both are four lines blues in which the tornal black spot have metallic scales.

    N. hermus; Dark striae within the bands weak or obsolete.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...unte_ai927.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...70ce999c-1.jpg
    Very similar to this.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...d9595f3a-1.jpg

    Surprisingly Seitz's Macrolepidoptera have this as pavana when it should be hermus.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nacadu...le:PavImg0.jpg


    N. pavana ;Dark striae within the bands strong;Marginal & submarginal spots dark.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...654a5aca-2.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...4f841eaf-1.jpg
    Singapore examples are similar.
    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-PHJWYq36n...P_adult_01.jpg
    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-CEDsbe0sw...rline+Blue.jpg


    Similar ;N. sanaya :Dark striae obsolete; HW black spot without metallic scales.
    Singapore male & female.
    https://www.besgroup.org/wp-content/...i-LenaChow.jpg
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...race%20tan.jpg

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    4 & 5. Koruthaialos sindu.

    The two K. sindu & rubecula are frequently confused & there are numerous misIDs on the web.
    Two very reliable features are present.

    K. sindu. Labial palp 3rd segment shrt , like a conical knob. Orange band's outer border with a mid indentation or notch.
    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-6RkAaBJ00...alos+sindu.jpg
    https://static.inaturalist.org/photo...jpg?1444960678
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...05d68a54-1.jpg
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91530001.html

    K. rubecula;Labial palp 3rd segment long ;Orange band's outer border smoothly curved to straight.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...s-rubecula.jpg
    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-b_qzftxz-...s+rubecula.jpg
    https://www.samuibutterflies.com/02_...rubecula.r.jpg
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91510010.html

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    6. Telicota bambusae.


    T. bambusae smaller FW 15mm. FW band relatively broad ;UpF space 2 base usually black, but sometimes orange.Brand straight, middle or near outer border of black space.
    UnH veins not dark dusted.
    Female with twin cellend bars relatively long.

    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...Saji_ad012.jpg
    FW distorted so band appears narrow.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...d122123d-2.jpg
    Male with base of space 2 orange.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...5cb511d4-1.jpg
    Female with cellend bar relaticely long.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...1a06a14a-1.jpg


    T. linna :Larger, FW 18mm. Space 2 base black (sometimes orange) Male brand straight; FW band narrower.
    UnH veins not dark-dusted.
    Underparts ,abdomen & face paler.
    Female with two short cellend bars.


    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qDEk4MIq_...TL_male_05.jpg
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-79Gj7N-1G...TL_male_01.jpg
    Female.
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-GfwkAkMIT...male_up_01.jpg


    T. augias: More orangey than other species; Male brand large, filling black space; space 2 base always orange.
    UnH veins not dark-dusted,
    Underpart fairly uniformly orange. Abdominal end mostly orange.
    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-y3LkExqbZ...ias_male_2.jpg
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6riT3uzre...ias_male_1.jpg
    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-f8o_ke_F-...alm%2BDart.jpg


    T. besta : duller FW male brand nearer inner border of black space; space 2 base always orange.
    UnH veins slightly darkened.Underparts only face noticeably paler.
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6-BjVfqOI...male_up_01.jpg
    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...hPWNw&usqp=CAU
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-EcRIOq2iv...t_male_-04.jpg
    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1rRXJdPYo...ed_male_01.jpg
    Female.
    https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec..._female_01.jpg
    Last edited by Psyche; 08-Jul-2020 at 02:29 PM.

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    7. Neptis nata.
    The markings are much as in N. nata.
    FW submarginal spots slightly curved in ; spots generally small; Underside grey brown; UnH subcostal band curved down to join the main discal band.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...491ebc5a-2.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sp/2142/Neptis-nata
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720190010.html


    8. Neptis nata.
    The features are that of N. nata.
    1. FW submarginal spots slightly curved in at apex.
    2. HW submarginal spots relatively separate above but UnH somewhat continuous.
    3. UnH subcostal band curved down to join the discal band.
    4. There is no black edging of the white bands as seen in both N. sappho & hylas.

    N. hylas ;FW submarginal spots slightly curved in at apex; FW postdiscal spots tend to be wide. HW submarginal spots partially separate in outer/upper half; Underside tawny brown bands black-deged.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...kale_al934.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sp/480/Neptis-hylas

    N. sappho; FW submarginal spots not obviously curved in at apex; HW submarginal spots well separated above ;Underside rusty brown ; bands black-edged; subcostal band not joining discal band.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...2adc4eef-1.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sp/925/Neptis-sappho
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720140010.html

    There is probably some gene introgression from N. hylas causing the colour change.
    Last edited by Psyche; 08-Jul-2020 at 05:50 AM.

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    9. Phaedyma columella ?martabana

    FW with spot 2 & 3 wide.
    Male with a large spot in space 1a & a tiny one above it in space 1b.
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720470010.html


    1o, Neptis clinia susrata.
    Upperside brownish not black.
    HW discal band with a small spot at the base of space 3 incorporated into the band.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...13aaf858-1.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/#!.../Neptis-clinia

    11. Neptis magadha khasiana.
    FW postdiscal spot 3 much smaller than spot 2 ,the two separated widely from the two spot in space 1a & 1b.
    HW submarginal spots rounded & well separated.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/#!...Neptis-magadha



    TL Seow: Cheers.

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    Thank u so very much for the valuable guidance & suggestions, sir.....this will definitely help in my future expeditions...

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