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    Default ID requested for Telicota species

    GREETINGS FROM INDIA!!

    Dear Sir/Madam,
    I am sending herewith three Telicota species for indentification purpose. All specimen captured from Kolkata, West Bengal, India., in the month of Oct-Nov 2019. Please guide me along with the pictorial explanation. Till now I have confusion with Telicota species (Indian species).

    Thanks and Regards,
    Rajib Dey
    Email.: rajibdey88@gmail.com
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    1. Male Telicota bambusae.
    2. Female T. bambusae.
    3. Female T. bambusae.


    Telicota bambusae. FW 15mm. FW relatively short, spot 2 & 3 about 2X width of spots 4 & 5.
    Male brand straight base of space 2 dark but may be orange dusted.
    Female with two fairly long cellend bars.
    http://www.flutters.org/home/photoga...hish-tiple.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...gale_an075.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...11cea1cf-3.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...otra_ap643.jpg

    T. linna said to be very common in Bengladesh.
    Large FW 18-19 mm. FW spots 2 & 3 relatively narrow about 1.5X that of the width of spots 4 & 5.
    Base of space 2 dark ,rarely slight orange dusting.
    Female with the FW cellend bars rather short.
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wU0gNp51E3...Horace-Tan.jpg
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-79Gj7N-1G...TL_male_01.jpg
    female.
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-GfwkAkMIT...male_up_01.jpg
    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-e_7pWdo7X..._female_03.jpg


    T. colon; FW spots with long spikes much less in the female.
    Spots 4 & 5 often distorted, spot 4 trapezoid; little overlap between spot 3 & 4.
    Spots tend to be arranged in a stepladder way.
    Male brand place nearer inside margin of black space; Base of space 2 with defined orange patch.
    Female with FW cellend bars the upper one much longer.
    http://butterfliesvietnam.blogspot.c...palm-dart.html
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...c152a00a-1.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...b762c0b8-1.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...shKM_ah684.jpg
    female.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...576a1d4c-1.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...576a1d4c-2.jpg


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    Last edited by Psyche; 09-Nov-2019 at 11:47 AM.

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    Thank you for your suitable explanation. It would be more helpful if you will comparison with Telicota besta also.

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    Here are the rest.

    Note T. linna & bambusae; 1, Both sexes, veins across UnH band not dark-dusted; 2, Face & underparts somewhat paler.

    T. besta; Male base of space 2 a solid orange patch; brand set near inner margin (as in colon)
    UnH veins tend to be raised & prominent, lightly dark-dusted.
    Female cellend bars upper one longer ( as in colon female)
    Face only slightly paler.
    Male.
    https://live.staticflickr.com/56/186...f94f8404_b.jpg
    http://www.yin-image.com/butterfly/t...s/IMG_0452.jpg
    https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2884/...1f356eb2_b.jpg
    Female cellend bar as in T. colon but spot 4 & 5 normal & aligned.
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-P5w37zUj7B...male_up_01.jpg
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-OEM0FaXJUE..._female_01.jpg
    Compare Spots 4 & 5 with that in female T. colon below.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-grsw9HIBWI...n%2Bstinga.jpg


    T. ohara jix; Male brand very narrow; base of space 2 black
    Both sexes UnH band inner margin rather straight.(notch shallow)
    http://butterfliesvietnam.blogspot.c...nded-palm.html
    https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterflies/telicota-ohara/
    Female.
    https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/Telicota-ohara-jix


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    Last edited by Psyche; 09-Nov-2019 at 11:19 PM.

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    Respected Dr. T L. Seow Sir, I am sending another species for id purpose. This sp. like to me as

    1. Telicota sp. female.
    spot 4 trapezoid; little overlap between spot 3 & 4.
    Spots tend to be arranged in a stepladder way.
    Female with FW cellend bars the upper one much longer.

    Regards,
    Rajib Dey

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    This does look correct for a female Telicota colon.

    The female is harder to separate in fieldshots.

    Female T. bambusae.: FW cellend bars long, nearly equal in length ; spots 2 & 4 rather broad, at least 2x that of spot 4.
    http://www.flutters.org/home/photoga..._thombre_5.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...gale_an075.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...oman_an514.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...Saji_ad013.jpg


    Telicota linna female 'FW cellend bars rather short; spots 2 & 3 rather narrow . ie narrow band.
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-GfwkAkMIT...male_up_01.jpg
    https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...ta-linna-1.jpg
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check..._female_02.jpg


    Species with FW upper bar medium in length & lower bar shorter.

    1. T. colon female: FW spot 4 & 5 often distorted in shape; spot 5 a bit further out.
    https://static.inaturalist.org/photo...peg?1568537469
    https://static.inaturalist.org/photo...peg?1548579362
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/32759713
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JdsiwA8yg8...0/DSC_0035.JPG

    2. T. besta ; FW spot 4 & 5 aligned & not distorted.
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-P5w37zUj7B...male_up_01.jpg
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-OEM0FaXJUE..._female_01.jpg

    3. T. augias female : Ground colour more strongly orange.
    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-pU1r_zEy4R...0/DSC_0179.JPG
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oeax9BCEjg...ias_female.jpg

    4. T. ohara female;HW band upper (inner) margin more or less straight.
    https://farm1.static.flickr.com/595/...105933ab6e.jpg
    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...PmJ0zDZU8iZE&s



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    Last edited by Psyche; 10-Dec-2019 at 07:27 PM.

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    Thank you Mr. T. L. Seow Sir for your continuous guidance. I am sending herewith another one Telicota sp. for identification purpose. This species captured from Bangladesh in the year of 2018.

    Regards,
    Rajib Dey

    Telicota bc.jpg

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    Post 7.

    Male Telicota bambusae.

    T. bambusae : Smaller species , FW band spots 2 & 3 very wide at least 2X that of spot 4.
    Male brand is straight in the black space , lying in the middle with equal black space on either sides.
    Base of space typically black , but may be shaded orange as here (same for T. linna).
    http://www.flutters.org/home/photoga...hish-tiple.jpg
    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...avoor_(21).jpg

    T. linna :Large species ,FW band narrow.
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wU0gNp51E3...Horace-Tan.jpg

    T. besta ;FW base of space 2 always clearly orange; Male brand nearer the inner margin of black space.
    http://lh3.ggpht.com/_5hO6tO_xZtM/S5...1153405827.jpg
    https://live.staticflickr.com/56/186...f94f8404_b.jpg

    T. colon Brand near inner margin of black space ; spots spiky, some distorted.
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...colon3-KSK.jpg

    T. ohara :Brand straight & narrow.
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-QY-vSwGhfh...a%2Bhoara3.jpg


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    Respected Sir,
    I am sending herewith one Telicota male specimen for your ID guidance. Specimen captured by my nature friend from the West Bengal region on July'18. As per our previous discussion, I guessed it was T. bambusae. Please guide Sir.

    Regards,
    Rajib Dey
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    Telicota besta male.

    T. besta male.
    1. There is always a triangular orange patch at the base of space 2.
    2. The male brand is placed near the inner (basal) margin of the black space.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6-BjVfqOIQ...male_up_01.jpg
    https://live.staticflickr.com/56/186...f94f8404_b.jpg


    T. bambusae male.
    1 The base of space 2 is usually black, but may be lightly shaded orange.
    2. The male brand is placed in the middle of the black space.
    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...N4271_(10).jpg
    http://www.flutters.org/home/photoga...hish-tiple.jpg


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