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    Quote Originally Posted by atronox View Post
    Very nice collection of Lycaenids!!
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    I find the combination of species under the subfamily Apaturinae is very interesting, the courtesans together with the emperors, princes and courtier

    Euripus nyctelius nyctelius (Courtesan)
    This is another species that I haven't got a chance to see in Singapore, I believe it was a couple of years ago when someone sighted and shot one?
    During our stay at Chiangmai, I encountered at least one each day. I was extra happy when 2 of them appeared on our 2nd visit to Chiangdao!







    Mimathyma ambica (Indian Purple Emperor)
    The iridescent blue that appears at different angles is just amazing!





    Rohana parvata (Brown Prince)


    Rohana parisatis (Black Prince)
    Last edited by itsmemei; 27-Oct-2019 at 09:35 AM.
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    Post 32.

    Yes, the last one is Rohana perisatis.

    This & tonkiniana are very similar.

    R. parisatis; FW distal margin more excavated in the male.
    UnH cellend mark consist of two separated spots or upper spot obsolete; FW cellend mark is strongly constricted or separated into two as well.
    This male from S. India is easier to see the cellend marks.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohana...raiya_(23).jpg

    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...ekar_ab181.jpg
    https://wingscales.com/Nymphalidae/R...seudosiamensis


    R. tonkiniana; FW distal margin straighter in the male; Underside both wings with cellend mark a single entire bar ie the two spots are contiguous.
    https://wingscales.com/Nymphalidae/R...iana-siamensis Corrected Link.
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    Thank you so much, Dr Seow
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    Heliophorus ila nolus (Restricted Purple Sapphire)







    I can totally relate to the person who came up with the name because counting the rings can be very confusing!

    Ypthima confusa (Confused Three-ring)
    Last edited by itsmemei; 28-Oct-2019 at 02:59 PM.
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    In POst 33.the wrong link for R. tonkiniana was inserted accidentally.

    That may have got you confused.

    I have corrected the link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyche View Post
    In POst 33.the wrong link for R. tonkiniana was inserted accidentally.

    That may have got you confused.

    I have corrected the link.

    TL Seow: Cheers.
    Yes, the link works this time, thanks!
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    Post 35.
    I think you got both right.

    Heliophorus epicles & ila are very confusingly similar in the North.

    In P. Malaysia they are much more easy to ID.

    H. ila malaya. UnH red border in space 6 nearly flushed with the rest, rounded.
    http://nlliew66butterflies.blogspot....bury-1936.html
    http://www.samuibutterflies.com/expe...eliophorusila/

    H. epicles tweediei.UnH red border in space 6 protrude inwards , ie further in than the rest .
    http://nlliew66butterflies.blogspot....s-epicles.html
    https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/H..._ACC3432-5.jpg
    https://www.learnaboutbutterflies.co...%20epicles.htm

    The male of H. epicles usually have some orange on the FW even ssp latlimbata.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...unte_ah962.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...unte_ah963.jpg

    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...fbabede7-2.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...fbabede7-1.jpg

    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...6caca026-1.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...6caca026-2.jpg

    Example of a male without/faint orange on the FW.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...e738f6b6-2.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...e738f6b6-1.jpg

    H. ila nolus in Thailand have the inner margin of the red border rounded , slightly protruding inwards.
    http://butterfliesofthailand.blogspo...-sapphire.html



    Ypthima confusa have HW eyespot 6 much larger than spot 2.
    Y. watsoni have both spot 6 & 2 about equal.
    See pdf article below in link Satyridae from Vietnam. fig 7. no 4 (confusa) & 7 (watsoni.
    https://www.google.com/search?q=revi...hrome&ie=UTF-8


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    Many thanks, Dr Seow.

    As a reference, I have attached info on Y. confusa and Y. watsoni from Pisuth's book. The subspecies watsoni which is found in Chiangmai has very small ocelli on the HW, is the size vairable?
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    Practically all species have some variations in the size of the ocelli.

    Despite what Pisuth stated, there are dsf of Y. watsoni.

    Y. watsoni watsoni was described by Moore , type location Burma (Myanmar).

    From Moore's book.
    Fig 4 wsf.
    Fig 4a, b, c, dsf male & female.
    https://archive.org/stream/lepidopte.../n188/mode/1up

    Pisuth's image looks like dsf with its small ocelli & strong fasciae (bandings).


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