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    Default Help for identify Neptis sappho and Neptis hylas

    Hello everybody,

    I was read this thread,http://www.butterflycircle.com/showt...760#post129760, so I was revised my butterfly pictures. From the keys, I can name:

    This one is N.sappho?
    http://vmpic.science4you.org/images/..._2400x1800.jpg

    And this one is N.hylas?
    http://vmpic.science4you.org/images/..._2400x1800.jpg

    Please help me confirm these ones,

    Thank you very much,
    Hanh

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    The Neptis are particularly difficult in the north with wsf & dsf.

    There are 31 species in Vietnam , half of which are black & white.
    http://butterfliesvietnam.blogspot.c...h/label/Neptis
    I have been unable to locate images for N. dejeani & genulfa.

    Both N. sappho & hylas have the cell bar fractured (like a broken bone)& underside with the white band edged in black.
    N. hylas have the FW postdiscal spots elongate & the HW white band's lower border with a tiny triangular spot (at the base of space 3).
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sp/480/Neptis-hylas
    Your link below is N. hylas
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sp/480/Neptis-hylas

    N. sappho have the FW spots more rounded & the HW basal spot 3 often absent; Underside ground is a deeper rusty brown.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sp/925/Neptis-sappho
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720140010.html

    Your link does not match either species .The FW spots are very large & wide & the subapical spots almost fused. The colour is a bluish white.
    http://vmpic.science4you.org/images/..._2400x1800.jpg

    Possibly it is one of the two unknown species ie N. dejeani & genulfa.


    TL Seow: Cheers.
    Last edited by Psyche; 26-Apr-2019 at 12:45 AM.

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    Thank you Mr. Seow with a lot of useful information
    in above specimen, I have underside image as well, is it help for you narrow down?
    http://vmpic.science4you.org/images/..._2400x1800.jpg

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    Post 3. The underside a rusty brown with the white bands black-edged is that of N. sappho.Correction: Neptis hylas.
    This meant it is an extreme dry-season form (dsf) of N. sappho. which have the white bands & spots very broad.

    TL Seow; Cheers.

    PS . ID Correction; It should an extreme dsf of Neptis hylas. The underside colour is difficult to deduce in photos it is also variable.
    There is no examples of N. sappho in which the FW postdiscal spots are broad (ie horizontally elongate).
    Evans give additional difference between the two.
    N. hylas ; Underside FW veins beyond the cell blackened.
    N. sappho: Underside FW veins not blackened.
    Last edited by Psyche; 26-Apr-2019 at 08:51 PM.

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    thank you for your great support. I will take notes these ones

    best regards,
    H

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