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    The female of the taxon javanus is black & white.

    In several sites this has been labelled as Symbrenthia lilaea javanus.
    http://motyli.wz.cz/nymphal/symbrenthia.htm
    https://www.projectnoah.org/spottings/17204024

    In C&P4, Eliot states S. lilaea only extend to Neomalaya (ie Sumatra ,Malaya & Borneo) excluding Java.
    This means the species in Java is S. hippoclus.
    This is also stated in Funet.
    http://ftp.funet.fi/index/Tree_of_li...e/symbrenthia/
    The range of S. h. javanus include Java ,Bali & Borneo.


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    Thanks Dr Seow. So this the black and white one is a female Symbrenthia lilaea javanus

    In this attached photo, is this Athyma nefte nivifera?
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    It should be Athyma selenophora amhara
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    Oops. Thanks Aaron. I was looking out for the similar twice-broken cell streak which the ssp amharina doesnt have.
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    Athyma selenophora males were quite numerous in the waterfall trail. Each time an Athyma appeared, it would turn out to be this species, except for ONE occasion... Which I'll post in the future (only a record shot). We didn't see any females though, which look very unique if I'm not mistaken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banded Yeoman View Post
    Athyma selenophora males were quite numerous in the waterfall trail. Each time an Athyma appeared, it would turn out to be this species,except for ONE occasion... Which I'll post in the future (only a record shot). We didn't see any females though, which look very unique if I'm not mistaken.
    I'm gonna call it and say that it's Athyma cama
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    Quote Originally Posted by atronox View Post
    I'm gonna call it and say that it's Athyma cama
    Hmmm.. It was gigantic...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commander View Post
    Oops. Thanks Aaron. I was looking out for the similar twice-broken cell streak which the ssp amharina doesnt have.
    Np! The strange thing about selenophora is that the cell streak varies widely in the different sspp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atronox View Post
    It should be Athyma selenophora amhara
    Concur it is A. selenophora amhara.

    In A. selenophora the FW band have 4 main spots. A. cama have 3 main spots in the band & no cell streak.

    A. selenophora amhara. last row 1st image.
    A. cama ambra ; 1st row, third image.
    https://archive.org/stream/diegrosss...e/124/mode/1up

    Another image of A. selenopnora amhara.fig 2.
    https://archive.org/stream/proceedin.../n424/mode/1up


    The Symbrenthia is Symbrenthia hippoclus javanus
    http://www.nhm.ac.uk/our-science/dat...ch_type=starts
    Also in funet.
    http://ftp.funet.fi/pub/sci/bio/life...e/symbrenthia/

    It was first placed as a ssp of S. lilaea , but this has been revised.
    The website quoting S. lilaea javanus have referred to old IDs.

    TL Seow ; Cheers.
    Last edited by Psyche; 19-Apr-2019 at 10:15 PM.

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