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    Angry

    I think they can be ID'ed especially with fresh individuals.


    Pelopidas thrax; P thrax thrax ,Mediterranean to Delhi. ssp masta Sikkim & Manipur.

    1.Male brand whitish.
    2 .FW upper cellspot often teardrop shape ( horizontally).
    3. UnH spots distinctly margined with dark brown; some spots reduced to dark rings.
    4. Underpart of body ie. head, thorax, & abdomen strongly whitish.
    5. Ssp mastaUnH spots mostly dark rings except spots 4 & 5.
    Greek islands.
    https://www.researchgate.net/profile...2007-Right.png
    http://www.pyrgus.de/Pelopidas_thrax_en.html
    Turkey
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-eccwOVlYqY..._2649%252B.jpg

    There are pix in which the marginal areas are pale shaded much as in P. mathias from S. India, but the pix are from Africa.
    Nigeria.
    http://tolweb.org/Pelopidas_thrax

    P. agna.
    1 UpF male with spot 2 & 3 very narrow & rectangular .
    2. Male brand dark.
    3. UnH uniformly ochreous brown .
    4. UnH spots not dark-ringed.

    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...Saji_ac952.jpg
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...18_09_2012.jpg
    female
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...a_20140621.jpg


    Pelopidas mathias.
    1, Male brand dark.
    2. FW spot 2 & 3 quadrate.
    3. UnH greyer with pale marginal shading .
    4. UnH spots not dark-ringed.


    TL Seow: Cheers.

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    Respected T L Seow Sir,
    Can you share some images of P. mathias where we will get clear upper wing view (male dark brand, FW spot 2,3)

    Regards,
    Rajib Dey

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    I kind of forgot that P. mathias is also found in Africa since my reference book did not mention it.
    In fact both P. thrax & mathias are found widely in Subsaharan Africa.
    http://www.metamorphosis.org.za/arti...s%20Walker.pdf

    As there is no example of P. thrax with whitish shading through out the Mediterranean & the Middle East, this means the examples with white marginal shading on the wings are mis-ID'ed P. mathias.
    eg.http://tolweb.org/Pelopidas_thrax


    The three species can now be separated with greater confidence.

    Pelopidas thrax.
    1. Upperside; FW with upper cellspot typically wide (elongate horizontally),often teardrop shape.
    Male with the brand whitish.
    Female with spots rather larger than in P. agna & mathias female.
    2.Underside uniformly light brown.
    HW spots with darker brown margins ,some of the spots reduced to dark rings/spots.
    Underpart of body generally whiter thn the other species.
    Males.
    https://www.biolib.cz/IMG/GAL/174735.jpg
    http://www.pyrgus.de/bilder1/hesperi...rax_3f2013.jpg
    Females.
    http://www.pyrgus.de/bilder1/hesperi...rax_8f2013.jpg
    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...Swift_05-5.jpg

    Subspecies masta Sikkim to Manipur.
    UnH with spots 4 & 5, the rest absent or reduced to dark spots.


    Pelopidas agna
    1. Upperside both cellspots rounded.
    Male brand dark.
    Male spot 2 & 3 typically narrow & rectangular.
    A line through the two cellspots usually bypass or just tip the lower end of the brand.
    2. Underside uniformly brown ,often ochreous.
    HW spots not margined in darker brown.

    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93090001.html
    Males.
    https://ml.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%...ai_078_(2).jpg
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...Horace-Tan.jpg
    Females.
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check..._female_02.jpg
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...SwiftF-KSK.jpg


    Pelopidas mathias
    1. Upperside FW cellspots rounded.
    Male brand dark.
    Male spot 2 & 3 typically quadrate but may be somewhat rectangular.
    A line through the two cellspot cut the lower part of the male brand.
    Female spots as in the female P. agna . A line thru the 2 cellspots is closer to the spot in space 1b than in the case of the P. agna female but not reliable.
    2. Underside greyer brown ,uneven, with pale shadings in the marginal areas ,variable; HW spots may have darker margins.
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93120001.html
    Males.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vu2BuAb4wk...side_03XYZ.gif
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vqr7KmROfe...perside_01.jpg
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Gzu0QPtBPM...nded+Swift.jpg
    Females.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-f8ydI8r9_g...perside_01.jpg
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Zld9bl5mdB...S_adult_01.jpg

    The best identification is from the underside

    P. mathias ; Un with paler whitish shadings in the marginal areas ; spots may have dark margins ;UpF male brand dark.

    P. agna .UnH uniform brown, ochreous, spots without dark margins; UpF male brand dark

    P. thrax; UnH uniform light brown ;spots with dark margins, some spots may be reduced to dark rings/dots; UpF male brand whitish, upper cellspot elongate .


    TL Seow: Cheers.
    Last edited by Psyche; 17-Nov-2018 at 07:17 AM.

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