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    Greetings from India Dr. Seow

    Our friend from Bhutan seeks id help for two specimens (All photos shot in Bhutan)

    Could this be Potanthus confucius or Potanthus trachala?

    Potanthus by GKBaliga, on Flickr

    Potanthus2 by GKBaliga, on Flickr

    Our friend says above two photos are of the same specimen.

    Could the following one be Pantoporia hordonia ?

    Pantaporia by GKBaliga, on Flickr
    Regards gkbaliga

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    Post 31.

    The 2 Potanthus are of different individuals. The 2nd have the uppermost subapical spot (8) very small.

    1. Veins not dark dusted; HW band end spot not projected out. Probably P. ganda.
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6KehhAM8g1...us%2Bganda.jpg

    P. pseudomaesa ;FW spots 4 & 5 with little overlap with others. HW band outer spot projected.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...otra_ak402.jpg

    2. Upperside FW with spot 8 vestigial, FW spot 5 smaller than spot 4.
    Probably Potanthus juno.

    P. juno male with spot 8 vestigial or absent; spot 5 smaller than spot 4.
    http://www.samuibutterflies.com/02_i.../upperside.jpg
    https://www.thaibutterflies.com/wp-c...o-1080x724.jpg

    P. serina large, FW spot 5 distinctly smaller than spot 4. UnH band often with a small spot 6 on inner corner of band.
    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_0EK80AsaR7...hus-serina.jpg
    http://i63.tinypic.com/15hhbbl.jpg


    3. Typical Pantoporia hordonia;
    FW grey band broad, 2X that of orange band & continuous.
    http://www.learnaboutbutterflies.com...nia%20001a.jpg

    Often confused with P. sandaka :FW grey band narrow often constricted or broken into beads.
    https://www.grafimx.com/img.php?src=...f54.jpg&w=1140


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    Thank you so much Dr Seow
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    Greetings Dr. Seow

    Our friend from Bhutan seeks help for identifying Ceruleans and Line Blues.
    Is it possible to identify these specimens? All specimens shot in Bhutan

    Blue1 by GKBaliga, on Flickr


    Blue2 by GKBaliga, on Flickr


    Blue3 by GKBaliga, on Flickr


    Blue4 by GKBaliga, on Flickr


    Thanks in advance.
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    POst 34.
    1 Jamides alecto.
    FW postdiscal band broken; HW basal band broken; FW inner white striae broad esp in lower half.UpF with a dark border.
    https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/J...aMFUpUnAC1.jpg

    Similar J. elpis; but white striae thin at least the lower FW ones. UpF border a thread.
    http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/med...97cf3608-2.jpg
    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ed/2a...a617a8f9fd.jpg


    2 & 3 Probably Nacaduba sanaya dsf. 4-line blue. Correction J. bochus; HW with white stria forming a sharp spike (typical of Jamides).
    Dark striae within bands absent or very weak ;FW postdiscal band dislocated (v.6); HW black spot without metallic scales.
    wsf Thailand.
    https://wingscales.com/content/record/410-1-e0bfc.jpg

    4. Nacaduba hermus ;Dark striae weak; FW postdiscal band not/barely dislocated; HW black spot with metallic scales. Correction :Typical 6-line blue & fairly typical Nacaduba kurava.
    http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/med...gale_ab589.jpg

    Similar N. pavana; dark striae strong; HW black spot with metallic scales.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-g0zaLcuBKI...lt_Khew_02.jpg


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    #3 Seems more like Jamides bochus plato from the widely spaced striae on the hindwing

    #4 Is probably N. kurava euplea from the berenice group.
    Aaron Soh

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    Quote Originally Posted by atronox View Post
    #3 Seems more like Jamides bochus plato from the widely spaced striae on the hindwing

    #4 Is probably N. kurava euplea from the berenice group.
    Quite right here .
    I am getting everything mixed up.

    2 & 3 are Jamides bochus.
    Jamides have one of the white striae in the lower/ inner margin forms a spike.

    4. is Nacaduba kurava. It is a 6-line blue.
    I have it right earlier but somehow consider it a 4 line blue later.
    The submarginal spots are more rounded & the FW postdiscal band rather straight.


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    Hi Dr. Seow and Aaron Soh.... Tshulthrim Drukpa Wangyel from Bhutan, the original photographer of these specimens joins me in thanking you people for the good discussion and information given to us.

    Cheers
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    Greetings from South India Dr. Seow

    Our friend from Bhutan seeks help for identifying few Butterfly specimens shot in and around Bhutan.
    Most grateful if you could help.

    1. Which Potanthus could this be. This and the next photo are of the same specimen.

    Potanthus 1 by GKBaliga, on Flickr


    Potanthus 1a by GKBaliga, on Flickr


    2. Which Satyr could this be. Not sure if both the images are of the same individual. Elevation around 2,500 to 3,000 meters.
    (Could it be Aulocera brahminus Blanchard, 1853 Narrow-banded Satyr ) ?

    Satyr by GKBaliga, on Flickr

    Satyr (2) by GKBaliga, on Flickr


    3. Could this be Taractrocera maevius Common Grass Dart? Elevation around 300 mts.
    Tshultrim by GKBaliga, on Flickr


    4. Which Tarucus could this be? Elevation around 300 mts.
    Tarucus sp by GKBaliga, on Flickr
    Regards gkbaliga

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    Post 30.

    1. Potanthus nesta;
    FW band with continuous overlap (as in P. confucius) HW upperside band veins not darkened; abdominal end black-banded; UnH band almost rectangular (ie spot 4+5 project out very little).
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/92800001.html

    2. Aulocera spp. unknown either padma or brahminus; Description & images are very confusing & do not match.
    eg Kollar's image of A. padma fig 1 & 2. There seem to be a mismatch of the upperside & underside bands.
    https://archive.org/stream/kaschmiru.../n238/mode/1up

    3. Taractrocera maevius.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taract...84_1_Fitch.png
    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...ra_maevius.JPG

    4. Tarucus balkanicus.

    This & T indicus are so similar on the underside that error IDs are rife.
    It is thus necessary to get the correct image.

    Tarucus balkanicus Turkey where T indicus is absent.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarucu...balkanicus.jpg

    T. indicus.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...11/a-28792.jpg

    In T. balkanicus the basal black band extend more darkly along the costa; the black spot between the FW discal & postdiscal bands is rounded (oblong in T. indicus).


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