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    Good day Dr. Seow

    Mr. Tshulthrim Drukpa Wangyel wonders whether the following image could be female of the same Rapala Species posted earlier namely Rapala scintilla.
    He says he had shot the image around the same time of shooting other three images, but may be a kilometer away from where he had shot the other individual.

    He however regrets he could not get the upper view of this one.

    9.Rapala by GKBaliga, on Flickr
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    Post 6.
    The hindwing band/line is more or less entire & straight.
    In the male R. scintilla above it is dislocated at several points.

    This should be the female Rapala nissa.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sp/1004/Rapala-nissa


    TL Seow: Cheers.

    PS. Rapala rectivitta is very similar but both FW & HW bands are very straight & thicker.
    http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sp/...ala-rectivitta
    http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/med...e7f4217d-2.jpg
    Last edited by Psyche; 09-Aug-2018 at 07:34 AM.

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    Ha Ha......This Taxonomy is interesting Dr. Seow.

    Keeps changing, doesn't it. You are an Encyclopedia. You seem to have answers to every doubt of ours.
    Just for my information, are all these changes approved through ICZN or on the basis of scientific papers published?

    Thanks for other ids
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    Quote Originally Posted by gkbaliga View Post
    Ha Ha......This Taxonomy is interesting Dr. Seow.

    Keeps changing, doesn't it. You are an Encyclopedia. You seem to have answers to every doubt of ours.
    Just for my information, are all these changes approved through ICZN or on the basis of scientific papers published?

    Thanks for other ids

    I have no knowledge of this species, but merely googled the answers from the net.

    The ICZN is particularly important in the species name ie camurius.
    This is the earliest name & have priority.
    If there are other name given to this butterfly at a later date they are invalid.
    The taxon (=taxonomic name)camurius is the valid name of this butterfly.
    This name should published in a reputable or established scientific publication.
    It need not be in English but nowaday it is imperative to have an English translation.

    Any dispute regarding this name can be referred to ICZN.

    As to change in the generic name it depends on the scientist .
    Koiwaya create a new genus Fujiokaozephyrusbecause he find that camurius is diferent in many respect to other species placed in both Teratzephyrus & Esakiozephyrus.

    Acceptance to the generic name change is fromm peer scientists who study his paper.

    If you disagree you can continue to use Esakiozephyrus. There is no penalty.

    Another case in point is Pseudoborbo bevani. Lee made the generic name change in 1966.
    Many scientists felt it was unnecessary & continue with Borbo bevani.

    The name Pseudoborbo have gain traction because it is widely used in east Asia by many Japanese scientists, & bloggers.

    In a recent DNA study paper ,the author found there is sufficient justification for the change to Pseudoborbo.
    The same author also divides Polytremis into several genera (groan!)

    In another case, a DNA study have shown all the Asian Charaxes & Polura species are closely related to each other & to a group of Charaxes species in Africa.
    This means that all Polyura species should be put back into Charaxes.
    Butterflies of India have follow suit, but few scientists have made the change.


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    Thank you so much Dr Seow
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    Thank you so much for educating us Dr. Seow.
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    From the looks of it, the one in post #6 could also be Rapala buxaria. Not sure what the distinguishing features are
    Aaron Soh

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    Quote Originally Posted by atronox View Post
    From the looks of it, the one in post #6 could also be Rapala buxaria. Not sure what the distinguishing features are
    Rapala buxaria is a synonym of R. rectivitta.
    https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Rapala_rectivitta
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4/83960001.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyche View Post
    Rapala buxaria is a synonym of R. rectivitta.
    https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Rapala_rectivitta
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4/83960001.html

    TL Seow: Cheers.
    Whoops i didn't realise that. Thx Dr Seow.
    Aaron Soh

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    Greetings from India Dr Seow

    Again posting on behalf of our friend from Bhutan. All following photos shot in Bhutan at Elevation 1,200 meters

    Post 23 Sl. No 1
    Which Potanthus could this be?
    Potanthus by GKBaliga, on Flickr




    Post 23 Sl. No 2
    Which Polytremis could this be P. Eltola ? P. discreta ? (Both photos same individual)
    Polytremis2 by GKBaliga, on Flickr

    Polytremis by GKBaliga, on Flickr



    Post 23 Sl. No 3
    Is it possible to identify this Pelopidas sp? only one view available.
    Pelopidas by GKBaliga, on Flickr




    Post 23 Sl. No 4
    Which Parnara sp. could this be?
    Parnara by GKBaliga, on Flickr
    Regards gkbaliga

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