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    No. 2 Aulocera padma.
    The first image have part of the HW lowered, & exposing the FW spot in space 4.

    The band in A. padma is relative wide & so this spot 4 is an elongate triangle.
    The same spot 4 in A. brahminus is more rounded in shape.

    This can be seen in Seitz's illustrations showing both species.
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...5251989%29.jpg


    TL Seow:Cheers.

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    Thank you so much Dr Seow. Our friend Tshultrim Drukpa Wangyel conveys his gratitude too.

    Here is an image. Shot in Bhutan, Elevation 3,990 meters.

    Could this be Lethe atkinsonia Hewitson, 1876 Small Goldenfork ?
    Your help in identifyng the species will be very useful



    Goldenfork by GKBaliga, on Flickr
    Regards gkbaliga

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    Post 42.

    There is no perfect match here.
    The wingshape is distorted being stretched so the markings tend to be further apart.
    Also this is rather dark with less of the white fasciation.
    However, I am pretty confident it is Lethe sura.
    At the base of space 4 is a white crescent spot, & from there the rest of the markings can be worked out.
    https://live.staticflickr.com/879/41...c012580f_b.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/#!/sp/856/Lethe-sura


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    Last edited by Psyche; 03-Aug-2019 at 07:46 AM.

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    ""There is no perfect match here.""

    This is the reason we were confused. However we now see likeliness of Lethe sura
    Thank you so much Dr. Seow.
    Regards gkbaliga

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    Good Morning Dr Seow

    Greetings from South India.
    Our friend from Bhutan has these two specimen's images. ID help from you is appreciated

    1.01 by GKBaliga, on Flickr



    2. We have little confusion regarding these two images of the same specimen.
    Could it be Dodona eugenes or Dodona dipoea

    Punch by GKBaliga, on Flickr

    Punch2 by GKBaliga, on Flickr
    Regards gkbaliga

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    Good Afternoon Dr. Seow

    Our friend Tshulthrim Drukpa Wangyel tells me that nobody has recorded (to the best of his knowledge) Tarucus balkanicus from Bhutan.
    (Posted in my post 39, identified by you in post 40). He would like to give you special thanks for helping him pin point the id.

    He has given me one more Potanthus Specimen. He believes all 3 images are of the same specimen / species.
    Would you be kind enough to help him decide on the id? All these and the images in the previous post are shot in Bhutan

    Potanthus by GKBaliga, on Flickr

    Potanthus1 by GKBaliga, on Flickr

    Potanthus3 by GKBaliga, on Flickr
    Regards gkbaliga

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    Post 42.

    1. Allotinus drumila ;strongly marked by orange brown spots.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sp...otinus-drumila

    2. Dodona eugenes has a tail.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/#!...Dodona-eugenes

    Dodona dipoea has no tail.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sp/1080/Dodona-dipoea

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    Quote Originally Posted by gkbaliga View Post
    Good Afternoon Dr. Seow

    Our friend Tshulthrim Drukpa Wangyel tells me that nobody has recorded (to the best of his knowledge) Tarucus balkanicus from Bhutan.
    (Posted in my post 39, identified by you in post 40). He would like to give you special thanks for helping him pin point the id.
    Dont take my word for this one although I still think it is T. balkanicus.

    There plenty of examples of true T. balkanicus from Europe & the spot shape varies.
    The FW spot mentioned may also be oblong in balkanicus.
    Turkey.
    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...lkanicus_0.jpg
    The same spot can round in T. indicus.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarucu...CN0815_(6).jpg

    The short postdiscal band with the rounded head tend to be widely dislocated & detached in T. balkanicus.
    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...balkanicus.jpg


    All I can say at the moment it look much more like T. balkanicus.

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    Post 46.

    Potanthus pseudomaesa. male.
    Abdominal end with a black band.
    FW band spots 4 & 5 with little overlap above & below.
    FW spots 2 & 3 widest.
    HW with spot 6 small on the upperside ;veins not dark-dusted.
    UnH band with dark spots & edgings.
    Male.
    http://www.learnaboutbutterflies.com...08690-001a.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...d7f5f8902c.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...1a69905b-4.jpg
    Female.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...bfd090c6-1.jpg


    Similar species with the abdominal end with a black band.

    P. juno Abdominal end lightly black FW spot 8 absent or vestigial: FW spot 5 usually smaller than spot 4.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...o-1080x724.jpg
    female.
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WroJpPq0U...Dart-KohCH.jpg

    P. trachala.deep orange lFW spots 4 & 5 fully detached ; spots spiky ; HW spot 4 +5 project out more; UnH dark edgings .
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kvlAhJLLsd...la-tytleri.jpg

    P. serina; FW spot 5 smaller than spot 4; HW band with a small spot 6 at inner end; dark shaded ,no spots.
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...serina-KSK.jpg

    P. pallida; FW spots 4 & 5 widely detached; FW spots strongly divided by dark veins. UnH dark shaded.
    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-K_9vR_LQ-U...Untitled-1.jpg
    female
    http://slbutterflies.lk/storage/app/...1492795764.JPG

    P. sita; FW spots 4 & 5 well detached, spiky ; similar to P. trachala but spots yellow.
    https://live.staticflickr.com/2742/4...070544c037.jpg

    P. palnia; FW spots 5 usually smaller than spot 4 ;UnH dark-shaded greenish; no dark spots ;abdominal end wholly black.
    https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4536...eb33ea48_b.jpg
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/76033499@N00/30430140096/

    P. lydia ;Abdomen dark, end wholly black; FW spot 4 & 5 with inner margins convergent; UnH lightly shaded.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...thus-lydia.jpg
    https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5648/2...e0f34ba0dc.jpg

    P. rectifasciatus FW band rather straight ;HW spot 6 large , prominent ;UnH with heavy spotting.
    https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4585...39db4bb7_b.jpg

    P. mingo ;Similar to P ganda or omaha but abdominal end with a black band ;UnH with dark spots ;band margins excavate.
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-tFtROXZYi...us%2Bmingo.JPG

    P. flava UnH usually with heavy dark spots. Spots may be very spiky.
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/92780010.html
    Japan.
    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3a/10...44c9ea7c2e.jpg
    Probable P. flavus Thailand.
    https://www.thaibugs.com/wp-content/...pecies%201.jpg

    P. nesta ;FW band with continuous overlap or nearly so (like confucius, but abdominal end with black band). UnH band rectangular ,spot 6 small.
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/92800001.html
    http://www.samuibutterflies.com/02_i...usparvus.v.jpg


    TL Seow: Cheers.
    Last edited by Psyche; 11-Aug-2019 at 10:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyche View Post
    Dont take my word for this one although I still think it is T. balkanicus.

    ...................

    All I can say at the moment it look much more like T. balkanicus.
    Never mind that Dr Seow. Both Tshulthrim Drukpa Wangyel and I am thankful for all your support and help regarding this id and ids of other specimens.
    Regards gkbaliga

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