ID for few Butterflies from Bhutan

[gkbaliga]

Good Morning Dr Seow

Greetings from South India.
Our friend from Bhutan has these two specimen's images. ID help from you is appreciated

1.01 by GKBaliga, on Flickr



2. We have little confusion regarding these two images of the same specimen.
Could it be Dodona eugenes or Dodona dipoea

Punch by GKBaliga, on Flickr

Punch2 by GKBaliga, on Flickr

[gkbaliga]

Good Afternoon Dr. Seow

Our friend Tshulthrim Drukpa Wangyel tells me that nobody has recorded (to the best of his knowledge) Tarucus balkanicus from Bhutan.
(Posted in my post 39, identified by you in post 40). He would like to give you special thanks for helping him pin point the id.

He has given me one more Potanthus Specimen. He believes all 3 images are of the same specimen / species.
Would you be kind enough to help him decide on the id? All these and the images in the previous post are shot in Bhutan

Potanthus by GKBaliga, on Flickr

Potanthus1 by GKBaliga, on Flickr

Potanthus3 by GKBaliga, on Flickr

[Psyche]

Post 42.

1. Allotinus drumila ;strongly marked by orange brown spots.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sp...otinus-drumila

2. Dodona eugenes has a tail.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/#!...Dodona-eugenes

Dodona dipoea has no tail.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sp/1080/Dodona-dipoea

[Psyche]

Good Afternoon Dr. Seow

Our friend Tshulthrim Drukpa Wangyel tells me that nobody has recorded (to the best of his knowledge) Tarucus balkanicus from Bhutan.
(Posted in my post 39, identified by you in post 40). He would like to give you special thanks for helping him pin point the id.

Dont take my word for this one although I still think it is T. balkanicus.

There plenty of examples of true T. balkanicus from Europe & the spot shape varies.
The FW spot mentioned may also be oblong in balkanicus.
Turkey.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...lkanicus_0.jpg
The same spot can round in T. indicus.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarucu...CN0815_(6).jpg

The short postdiscal band with the rounded head tend to be widely dislocated & detached in T. balkanicus.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...balkanicus.jpg


All I can say at the moment it look much more like T. balkanicus.

[Psyche]

Post 46.

Potanthus pseudomaesa. male.
Abdominal end with a black band.
FW band spots 4 & 5 with little overlap above & below.
FW spots 2 & 3 widest.
HW with spot 6 small on the upperside ;veins not dark-dusted.
UnH band with dark spots & edgings.
Male.
http://www.learnaboutbutterflies.com...08690-001a.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...d7f5f8902c.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...1a69905b-4.jpg
Female.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...bfd090c6-1.jpg


Similar species with the abdominal end with a black band.

P. juno Abdominal end lightly black FW spot 8 absent or vestigial: FW spot 5 usually smaller than spot 4.
https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...o-1080x724.jpg
female.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WroJpPq0U...Dart-KohCH.jpg

P. trachala.deep orange lFW spots 4 & 5 fully detached ; spots spiky ; HW spot 4 +5 project out more; UnH dark edgings .
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kvlAhJLLsd...la-tytleri.jpg

P. serina; FW spot 5 smaller than spot 4; HW band with a small spot 6 at inner end; dark shaded ,no spots.
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...serina-KSK.jpg

P. pallida; FW spots 4 & 5 widely detached; FW spots strongly divided by dark veins. UnH dark shaded.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-K_9vR_LQ-U...Untitled-1.jpg
female
http://slbutterflies.lk/storage/app/...1492795764.JPG

P. sita; FW spots 4 & 5 well detached, spiky ; similar to P. trachala but spots yellow.
https://live.staticflickr.com/2742/4...070544c037.jpg

P. palnia; FW spots 5 usually smaller than spot 4 ;UnH dark-shaded greenish; no dark spots ;abdominal end wholly black.
https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4536...eb33ea48_b.jpg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/76033499@N00/30430140096/

P. lydia ;Abdomen dark, end wholly black; FW spot 4 & 5 with inner margins convergent; UnH lightly shaded.
https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...thus-lydia.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5648/2...e0f34ba0dc.jpg

P. rectifasciatus FW band rather straight ;HW spot 6 large , prominent ;UnH with heavy spotting.
https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4585...39db4bb7_b.jpg

P. mingo ;Similar to P ganda or omaha but abdominal end with a black band ;UnH with dark spots ;band margins excavate.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-tFtROXZYi...us%2Bmingo.JPG

P. flava UnH usually with heavy dark spots. Spots may be very spiky.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/92780010.html
Japan.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3a/10...44c9ea7c2e.jpg
Probable P. flavus Thailand.
https://www.thaibugs.com/wp-content/...pecies%201.jpg

P. nesta ;FW band with continuous overlap or nearly so (like confucius, but abdominal end with black band). UnH band rectangular ,spot 6 small.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/92800001.html
http://www.samuibutterflies.com/02_i...usparvus.v.jpg


TL Seow: Cheers.

[gkbaliga]

Dont take my word for this one although I still think it is T. balkanicus.

...................

All I can say at the moment it look much more like T. balkanicus.

Never mind that Dr Seow. Both Tshulthrim Drukpa Wangyel and I am thankful for all your support and help regarding this id and ids of other specimens.

[gkbaliga]

Probably you missed this Dr Seow?

[Psyche]

The Parnaras are very confusing in fieldshots.

IT is necessary to refer to specimens that are IDed properly.
All species have forms in which the HW spots are reduced & rounded.

From the Yutaka site it can be seen that in P. bada spot 3 is rounded or nearly so & is placed midway between spot 2 & 4.
In both P. ganga & apostata spot 3 is elongate & placed closer to spot 2.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93040001.html
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93020001.html
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93050001.html

P. ganga : Spots yellowish ;FW spot 2 elongate (blunt arrowhead) & closer to spot 2 ; HW spots wider (rectangular) close ;HW spot 6 may be present ;FW lower cellspot sometimes present.
Examples showing UP/UN.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...gale_ai387.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...gale_ai390.jpg

https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...gale_ai398.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...gale_ai395.jpg

https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...gale_aj189.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...gale_aj190.jpg

https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...7e5d6e2c-1.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...7b55a2e0-1.jpg

https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...c08d44f6-2.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...c08d44f6-2.jpg

Form with two cellspots.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...7c7ba7bd-1.jpg


This is by far the commonest species in India but has largely been identified as Parnara bada.

[Psyche]

Parnara bada:: Spots yellowish; FW spot 3 rounded or nearly so & midway between spot 2 & 4; HW spots small rounded separate, . FW rarely with an upper celspot.

https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...ea3aca4e-1.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...01e84a6a-1.jpg

https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...d90b8e97-2.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...d90b8e97-3.jpg

https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...450758f3-2.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...450758f3-1.jpg


Parnara bada appear to be rather rare compared to P. ganga.

[Psyche]

Parnara apostata: Spots whitish; Upperside very dark ; FW without cellspot; FW spot 3 elongate as in P. ganga; HW spots in a stepladder arrangement but can be irregular;HW spot 6 may be present, brownish & obscure.

https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...7db90205e8.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...7db9fa9e77.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...7db99e4c59.jpg


https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...bcdad495-1.jpg


https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...51b83382-1.jpg


Only in the NE regions.