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    One doubt Dr. Seow

    Many people consider this as one of the id pointers for B.bevani. Do you think it is valid?

    spot 3 in UPF to be more nearer to spot 2 than to spot 4.

    In other words distance between spot 3 & 4 is more than that between 2 & 3
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    Quote Originally Posted by gkbaliga View Post
    One doubt Dr. Seow

    Many people consider this as one of the id pointers for B.bevani. Do you think it is valid?

    spot 3 in UPF to be more nearer to spot 2 than to spot 4.

    In other words distance between spot 3 & 4 is more than that between 2 & 3

    The statement is true & valid but caution in interpreting a field shot.

    In P. bevani ,spot 3 is distinctly nearer spot 2 than spot 4 (Note spot 4 sometimes may be absent.)
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93070001.html

    In B. cinnara FW spot 3 is only a little bit nearer spot 2 than spot 4, & may be appeared almost equidistant from both.
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93060001.html


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    Greetings from South India Dr. Seow

    Our friend from Bhutan seeks help for identifying few Butterfly specimens shot in and around Bhutan.
    Most grateful if you could help.

    1. Which Potanthus could this be. This and the next photo are of the same specimen.

    Potanthus 1 by GKBaliga, on Flickr


    Potanthus 1a by GKBaliga, on Flickr


    2. Which Satyr could this be. Not sure if both the images are of the same individual. Elevation around 2,500 to 3,000 meters.
    (Could it be Aulocera brahminus Blanchard, 1853 Narrow-banded Satyr ) ?

    Satyr by GKBaliga, on Flickr

    Satyr (2) by GKBaliga, on Flickr


    3. Could this be Taractrocera maevius Common Grass Dart? Elevation around 300 mts.
    Tshultrim by GKBaliga, on Flickr


    4. Which Tarucus could this be? Elevation around 300 mts.
    Tarucus sp by GKBaliga, on Flickr
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    1. Potanthus nesta;
    FW band with continuous overlap (as in P. confucius) HW upperside band veins not darkened; abdominal end black-banded; UnH band almost rectangular (ie spot 4+5 project out very little).
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/92800001.html

    2. Aulocera spp. unknown either padma or brahminus; Description & images are very confusing & do not match.
    eg Kollar's image of A. padma fig 1 & 2. There seem to be a mismatch of the upperside & underside bands.
    https://archive.org/stream/kaschmiru.../n238/mode/1up

    3. Taractrocera maevius.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taract...84_1_Fitch.png
    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...ra_maevius.JPG

    4. Tarucus balkanicus.

    This & T indicus are so similar on the underside that error IDs are rife.
    It is thus necessary to get the correct image.

    Tarucus balkanicus Turkey where T indicus is absent.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarucu...balkanicus.jpg

    T. indicus.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...11/a-28792.jpg

    In T. balkanicus the basal black band extend more darkly along the costa; the black spot between the FW discal & postdiscal bands is rounded (oblong in T. indicus).


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    No. 2 Aulocera padma.
    The first image have part of the HW lowered, & exposing the FW spot in space 4.

    The band in A. padma is relative wide & so this spot 4 is an elongate triangle.
    The same spot 4 in A. brahminus is more rounded in shape.

    This can be seen in Seitz's illustrations showing both species.
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...5251989%29.jpg


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    Greetings from South India Dr. Seow

    Our friend from Bhutan needs help in identifying the following specimens.
    All shot in Bhutan


    1 a and 1 b both images of the same specimen shot at 1200 mts elevation. Could this be Pelopidas Agna
    1. a.
    Skipper1 by GKBaliga, on Flickr

    1, b.

    Skipper2 by GKBaliga, on Flickr




    Both 2.a and 2. b are of the same specimen. Could this be Borbo cinnara? Thorax greenish

    2. a.
    Skipper4 by GKBaliga, on Flickr

    2. b.
    Skipper3 by GKBaliga, on Flickr



    Both 3. a. and 3. b. are of the same specimen. Could this be Pelopidas agna?

    3.a.

    Skipper5 by GKBaliga, on Flickr

    3.b.
    Skipper6 by GKBaliga, on Flickr
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    1. Pelopidas agna.
    FW spots 2 & 3 are not very narrow here.

    2. Borbo cinnara.
    UNh spots are fairly typical with the main three spots 2, 3, & 6.
    2nd pic shows a spot in space 1b.


    3. Pelopidas agna.
    This is a more typical male with narrow spots 2 & 3.



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    Thank you so much Dr. Seow
    Regards gkbaliga

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    Thank you so much Dr Seow. Our friend Tshultrim Drukpa Wangyel conveys his gratitude too.

    Here is an image. Shot in Bhutan, Elevation 3,990 meters.

    Could this be Lethe atkinsonia Hewitson, 1876 – Small Goldenfork ?
    Your help in identifyng the species will be very useful



    Goldenfork by GKBaliga, on Flickr
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    Post 42.

    There is no perfect match here.
    The wingshape is distorted being stretched so the markings tend to be further apart.
    Also this is rather dark with less of the white fasciation.
    However, I am pretty confident it is Lethe sura.
    At the base of space 4 is a white crescent spot, & from there the rest of the markings can be worked out.
    https://live.staticflickr.com/879/41...c012580f_b.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/#!/sp/856/Lethe-sura


    TL Seow: Cheers.
    Last edited by Psyche; 03-Aug-2019 at 07:46 AM.

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