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    Potanthus pseudomaesa.
    FW spot 4 & 5 with little overlap; spot 2 & 3 wide; HW upper spot (4+5) projected out; Abdominal end with black patch.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...deea639e-1.jpg
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/92740010.html

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    P. discreta.HW tornal cilia white ;FW spots less yellow.
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93190001.html

    P. eltola.
    HW tornal celia yellow; FW spots yellower.
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93200001.html


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    Pelopidas agna.

    P. agna . Underside uniformly brown without pale shadings.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tQNuynda7-...A_male_06b.jpg

    P. mathias.Underside greyer brown with uneven paler shadings in the marginal areas.
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Gzu0QPtBPM...nded+Swift.jpg

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    This is difficult.
    Probably Parnara apostata.

    P. bada UnH with small irregular spots typically yellowish.

    P. ganga UnH with larger spots but somewhat irregular, typically yellowish. HW spot 6 usually absent.
    http://www.flutters.org/home/photoga...isepereira.jpg
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-R91gL8h9sC...a%2Bganga1.jpg
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5YxifWbLmR...cf%2Bganga.jpg

    P. guttata.
    UnH with spots strongly white arranged in a straight line ;HW spot 6 usually absent.UpF usually with 2 cellspots.
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SvOduIMH8...%2Bguttata.JPG
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...2011-08-20.jpg
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parnar...ra.guttata.jpg
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ta_bytreef.jpg

    P. apostata; UnH with spots in a slightly irregular line, whitish , HW spot 6 often present; UpF dark with no cellspot.
    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qtL__xzJRf...0/DSC_0336.JPG
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-JvGvOpLy-c...0/DSC_0328.JPG


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    Greetings Dr. Seow

    Our friend from Bhutan seeks help for identifying Ceruleans and Line Blues.
    Is it possible to identify these specimens? All specimens shot in Bhutan

    Blue1 by GKBaliga, on Flickr


    Blue2 by GKBaliga, on Flickr


    Blue3 by GKBaliga, on Flickr


    Blue4 by GKBaliga, on Flickr


    Thanks in advance.
    Regards gkbaliga

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    POst 34.
    1 Jamides alecto.
    FW postdiscal band broken; HW basal band broken; FW inner white striae broad esp in lower half.UpF with a dark border.
    https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/J...aMFUpUnAC1.jpg

    Similar J. elpis; but white striae thin at least the lower FW ones. UpF border a thread.
    http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/med...97cf3608-2.jpg
    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ed/2a...a617a8f9fd.jpg


    2 & 3 Probably Nacaduba sanaya dsf. 4-line blue. Correction J. bochus; HW with white stria forming a sharp spike (typical of Jamides).
    Dark striae within bands absent or very weak ;FW postdiscal band dislocated (v.6); HW black spot without metallic scales.
    wsf Thailand.
    https://wingscales.com/content/record/410-1-e0bfc.jpg

    4. Nacaduba hermus ;Dark striae weak; FW postdiscal band not/barely dislocated; HW black spot with metallic scales. Correction :Typical 6-line blue & fairly typical Nacaduba kurava.
    http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/med...gale_ab589.jpg

    Similar N. pavana; dark striae strong; HW black spot with metallic scales.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-g0zaLcuBKI...lt_Khew_02.jpg


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    #3 Seems more like Jamides bochus plato from the widely spaced striae on the hindwing

    #4 Is probably N. kurava euplea from the berenice group.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atronox View Post
    #3 Seems more like Jamides bochus plato from the widely spaced striae on the hindwing

    #4 Is probably N. kurava euplea from the berenice group.
    Quite right here .
    I am getting everything mixed up.

    2 & 3 are Jamides bochus.
    Jamides have one of the white striae in the lower/ inner margin forms a spike.

    4. is Nacaduba kurava. It is a 6-line blue.
    I have it right earlier but somehow consider it a 4 line blue later.
    The submarginal spots are more rounded & the FW postdiscal band rather straight.


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    Good Morning Dr Seow

    Greetings from South India.
    Our friend from Bhutan has these two specimen's images. ID help from you is appreciated

    1.01 by GKBaliga, on Flickr



    2. We have little confusion regarding these two images of the same specimen.
    Could it be Dodona eugenes or Dodona dipoea

    Punch by GKBaliga, on Flickr

    Punch2 by GKBaliga, on Flickr
    Regards gkbaliga

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    Good Afternoon Dr. Seow

    Our friend Tshulthrim Drukpa Wangyel tells me that nobody has recorded (to the best of his knowledge) Tarucus balkanicus from Bhutan.
    (Posted in my post 39, identified by you in post 40). He would like to give you special thanks for helping him pin point the id.

    He has given me one more Potanthus Specimen. He believes all 3 images are of the same specimen / species.
    Would you be kind enough to help him decide on the id? All these and the images in the previous post are shot in Bhutan

    Potanthus by GKBaliga, on Flickr

    Potanthus1 by GKBaliga, on Flickr

    Potanthus3 by GKBaliga, on Flickr
    Regards gkbaliga

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    Post 42.

    1. Allotinus drumila ;strongly marked by orange brown spots.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sp...otinus-drumila

    2. Dodona eugenes has a tail.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/#!...Dodona-eugenes

    Dodona dipoea has no tail.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sp/1080/Dodona-dipoea

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    Quote Originally Posted by gkbaliga View Post
    Good Afternoon Dr. Seow

    Our friend Tshulthrim Drukpa Wangyel tells me that nobody has recorded (to the best of his knowledge) Tarucus balkanicus from Bhutan.
    (Posted in my post 39, identified by you in post 40). He would like to give you special thanks for helping him pin point the id.
    Dont take my word for this one although I still think it is T. balkanicus.

    There plenty of examples of true T. balkanicus from Europe & the spot shape varies.
    The FW spot mentioned may also be oblong in balkanicus.
    Turkey.
    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...lkanicus_0.jpg
    The same spot can round in T. indicus.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarucu...CN0815_(6).jpg

    The short postdiscal band with the rounded head tend to be widely dislocated & detached in T. balkanicus.
    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...balkanicus.jpg


    All I can say at the moment it look much more like T. balkanicus.

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    Potanthus pseudomaesa. male.
    Abdominal end with a black band.
    FW band spots 4 & 5 with little overlap above & below.
    FW spots 2 & 3 widest.
    HW with spot 6 small on the upperside ;veins not dark-dusted.
    UnH band with dark spots & edgings.
    Male.
    http://www.learnaboutbutterflies.com...08690-001a.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...d7f5f8902c.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...1a69905b-4.jpg
    Female.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...bfd090c6-1.jpg


    Similar species with the abdominal end with a black band.

    P. juno Abdominal end lightly black FW spot 8 absent or vestigial: FW spot 5 usually smaller than spot 4.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...o-1080x724.jpg
    female.
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WroJpPq0U...Dart-KohCH.jpg

    P. trachala.deep orange lFW spots 4 & 5 fully detached ; spots spiky ; HW spot 4 +5 project out more; UnH dark edgings .
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kvlAhJLLsd...la-tytleri.jpg

    P. serina; FW spot 5 smaller than spot 4; HW band with a small spot 6 at inner end; dark shaded ,no spots.
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...serina-KSK.jpg

    P. pallida; FW spots 4 & 5 widely detached; FW spots strongly divided by dark veins. UnH dark shaded.
    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-K_9vR_LQ-U...Untitled-1.jpg
    female
    http://slbutterflies.lk/storage/app/...1492795764.JPG

    P. sita; FW spots 4 & 5 well detached, spiky ; similar to P. trachala but spots yellow.
    https://live.staticflickr.com/2742/4...070544c037.jpg

    P. palnia; FW spots 5 usually smaller than spot 4 ;UnH dark-shaded greenish; no dark spots ;abdominal end wholly black.
    https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4536...eb33ea48_b.jpg
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/76033499@N00/30430140096/

    P. lydia ;Abdomen dark, end wholly black; FW spot 4 & 5 with inner margins convergent; UnH lightly shaded.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...thus-lydia.jpg
    https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5648/2...e0f34ba0dc.jpg

    P. rectifasciatus FW band rather straight ;HW spot 6 large , prominent ;UnH with heavy spotting.
    https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4585...39db4bb7_b.jpg

    P. mingo ;Similar to P ganda or omaha but abdominal end with a black band ;UnH with dark spots ;band margins excavate.
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-tFtROXZYi...us%2Bmingo.JPG

    P. flava UnH usually with heavy dark spots. Spots may be very spiky.
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/92780010.html
    Japan.
    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3a/10...44c9ea7c2e.jpg
    Probable P. flavus Thailand.
    https://www.thaibugs.com/wp-content/...pecies%201.jpg

    P. nesta ;FW band with continuous overlap or nearly so (like confucius, but abdominal end with black band). UnH band rectangular ,spot 6 small.
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/92800001.html
    http://www.samuibutterflies.com/02_i...usparvus.v.jpg


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    Last edited by Psyche; 11-Aug-2019 at 10:59 PM.

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