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    Aaron, Dr Seow, here are some skipper shots that I cannot ID.... Your opinions are greatly appreciated!

    1) Potanthus ganda female..


    2) Baoris farri male


    3) Caltoris cormasa female




    4) Borbo cinnara female


    5) Pelopidas mathias male
    Last edited by Banded Yeoman; 07-Oct-2018 at 05:04 PM.
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    1 Potanthus ganda female.
    Veins may be slightly dark dusted at times; more orange than omaha & dark shading stronger.
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Ht4NZzQND..._underside.jpg
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-X9BG2_Zk_...t_Adult_02.jpg
    Female P. omaha.
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-MF0Ou8Bsf6...0/DSC_0189.JPG

    2. Baoris farri male.
    The underside view shows a lot of the pale areas on the antennal ;Upper FW cellspot is round; HW with a cellend mark (where the hair tuft sprout on the upperside.)
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...luri_ak295.jpg

    3 Caltoris cormasa female . Reddish tone is typical.

    4. Borbo cinnara female;
    The arrangement of the 3 main HW spots 2, 3, & 6 is typical. A small spot 4 is seen. Face & chest white.
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jMZu5Yy4Yg...ederick_01.jpg

    5. Pelopidas mathias male.
    When the HW spots are tiny the cellspot may sometimes be absent. The UnH is irregularly pale shaded.

    P. agna male 1. with absent HW cellspot & 2 with HW cellspot barely present.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-y9RT--lWNe...bo+cinnara.jpg
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/---kNw2cMzX...A_male_05a.jpg

    Borbo have thicker antennal clubs. Also face & chest strongly white.

    Parnara bada have short stubby antennae.
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-r10tmE1ODK...rnara+bada.jpg

    TL Seow :Cheers.

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    Dr Seow, thanks for the speedy response! I've been looking through older Caltoris shots too... In hopes of finding something unusual but they are all just cormasa.
    cheers
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    One shot from the weekend.. Is this correctly Lasippa tiga? (ALso, is it possible to determine sex?) Thanks!

    Lasippa tiga male
    Last edited by Banded Yeoman; 07-Oct-2018 at 05:05 PM.
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    Yes 6this is a male Lasippa tiga.
    There should not be too much reliance on the tongue shaped spot at the cellend. It varies too much to be reliable.

    Submarginal spot 3 is 2x the width of the adjacent spot 4 above it. (note spot 2 is always narrow)
    This view in the set position (as in a museum specimen)
    If you view it sideway ,submarginal spot 3 is 2x the height of spot 4.


    The male is readily ID'ed by the longer foot along the dorsum (lower margin) of the spot in space 1b. The head (spot 2) is almost always attached to the foot in the male ;Also termen is slightly indented.
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check..._Horace_01.jpg

    The female have a very short 'foot'; The head is usually detached & the termen is straighter, apex more rounded.
    https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7297/1...aa7307b5_b.jpg
    https://wanderingbutterflyeffect.fil...2e0d89860b.jpg


    TL Seow: Cheers.

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    Thanks for the pointers Dr Seow! Interesting that the sexes are actually so different on the upperside. I always assumed they were identical!
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    Some Potanthus species that were spotted during the drizzle yesterday morning... I've attempted to identify them. Hopefully the IDs (and sex) are correct!

    (Also, off topic, I've decided to post my images larger to help with spotting minute differences between species. The 1024 x 683 size also looks better on the mobile forums.)

    1) Potanthus trachala tytleri? Unsure which sex




    2) Potanthus omaha omaha male?




    cheers
    Jonathan

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