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    Default Is this Psuedoborbo bevani?

    ID Help appreciated. As I remember, all four photos are of the same individual.
    Shot in our home garden, Mangalore, Coastal part of Karnataka State, South India

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    20170929-IMG_8632 by GKBaliga, on Flickr

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    20170929-IMG_8630 by GKBaliga, on Flickr

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    20170929-IMG_8628 by GKBaliga, on Flickr

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    20170929-IMG_8622 by GKBaliga, on Flickr

    Thanks in advance.
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    Yes it6 is a female Pseudoborbo bevani.

    Borbo cinnara.Thorax with greenish hair ;FW spot in space 1b strongly present, spots 2 & 3 irregular with strongly concave margins; UnH with the spots well-defined.
    http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/med...oman_an663.jpg

    P. bevani Thorax more brown, FW spot in space 1b absent or vestigial, spot 2 & 3 regular , rounded ; UnH with the spots less defined.UnH spots well-defined.
    http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8468/8...efa00688_h.jpg
    http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/med...0d2810f0-1.jpg

    P. bevani can also present an underside that is very confusingly similar toParnara bada.
    The two can be differentiated thus.

    Borbo/Pseudoborbo : FW subapical spots (ie spots 6 ,7, & 7)arranged in a curve, the lowest ( spot 6) shifted out from the two above it.
    Female . Note FW subapical spots in a curve; large upper cellspot ; Lack of a spot in space 1b ; more gradual, less stubby antenna.
    http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/med...6b8c920d-1.jpg
    http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/med...6b8c920d-2.jpg
    Male from Thailand.
    http://butterfliesofthailand.blogspo...bo-bevani.html

    Parnara bada: FW subapical spots in a straight line; if only two(spot 6 & 7) are present they are well-aligned; antenna shorter ,thicker club.
    http://dearlep.tw/images/Papilionoid...DSC_1009_1.jpg
    http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/med...gale_aj190.jpg


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    Hellow Dr Seow

    Could this be Borbo cinnara?
    Shot in our garden at Mangalore, Karnataka State, South India.

    JPG-20181006-IMG_5008 by GKBaliga, on Flickr
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    These two are very difficult to separate in field shots.
    Part of the blame is that in the net the IDs are all mixed up so that it is hard to gauge which is correct.

    These images are all from Singapore where only Borbo cinnara occur.
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KaVjdL_FAM...lt_Khew_01.jpg
    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-I6ExYM1XQv...bo-cinnara.jpg
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check..._Horace_01.jpg
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check..._female_01.jpg

    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93060001.html

    These images can reasonably said to be correct for Pseudoborbo bevani.
    http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8335/8...1f535518_b.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...0d2810f0-1.jpg
    http://dearlep.tw/images/Papilionoid...E%E8%8A%B3.jpg
    https://www.thaibutterflies.com/wp-c...i-1080x722.jpg
    https://farm7.static.flickr.com/6076...d6b655d5_b.jpg

    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93070001.html


    The main difference are ,B. cinara UnH spots sharply defined; antennal shaft mostly dark; UpF spots 2 & 3 irregular.
    P. bevani ;UnH spotspoorly defined ,blurry; antennal shaft paler, often with a pale area behind the club; UpF spots smaller & rounded.


    Your shot with sharply defined HW spots & dark antennae indicate it is a female Borbo cinnara.


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    Thank you so much for the detailed explanation Dr. Seow
    Regards gkbaliga

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    Default Another Specimen - same species?

    These photos were taken on a separate day at the same place.
    As far as I can remember all photos are of the same specimen.

    Since this seems to match with the id pointers and description given to the earlier post, I presume this is also of the same species Pseudoborbo bevani Dr Seow?

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    20171003-IMG_8819 by GKBaliga, on Flickr

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    20171003-IMG_8807 by GKBaliga, on Flickr

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    20171003-IMG_8805 by GKBaliga, on Flickr

    Thanks in advance
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    Post 4. Female P. bevani.
    After reading Evans there is a lot of variations in both species .
    None of the stated features can be absolute.
    Some revision of the description is necessary.

    Borbo cinnara: UpF typically with a large non-hyaline spot in space 1b; Spots 2 & 3 usually with strongly concave outer margins, variable.
    UnH with the cilia basally dark in male , wholly dark in female.
    http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/med...Saji_ad960.jpg
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jMZu5Yy4Yg...ederick_01.jpg
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check..._female_01.jpg



    Pseudoborbo bevani.More golden brown; UpF with the spot in space 1b absent or vestigial/tiny ; Spots 2 & 3 often rounded but variable ;nos. of spots may be reduced.
    UnH with the cilia uniformly light in both sexes; male usually have a pale area on the antenna.
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/subhajit_pics/7042615117
    https://farm9.static.flickr.com/8244...d4c5c452_b.jpg
    http://www.flutters.org/home/photoga...picture&id=618
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SzW2hylRQR...00/H31-1-1.jpg
    http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8195/8...410130f9_h.jpg
    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...B_DSC_2966.jpg

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    Default Caltoris Kumara?

    Could this be Caltoris Kumara Dr Seow? Both photos of the same individual. Shot in our garden, Mangalore, Coastal Area of Karnataka State, India September 2018

    Wings are broad, only two supapical spots in FW, Spot 2,3,4 almost equidistant. Apparently no spot on UNH

    20180901-IMG_4034 by GKBaliga, on Flickr

    20180901-IMG_4036 by GKBaliga, on Flickr

    Thanks in advance
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    Post 15.
    Yes this looks like Caltoris kumara.
    Larger size FW- 20mm rounder wings. Antennal club slimmer vs Borbo & Parnara.
    Underside HW with an ochreous overlay (appear as a speckling).
    Male C. kumara with 2 subapical spots.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...946b08c8-1.jpg
    https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caltor...6_1_Knight.png

    Baoris have similar antennae but UnH without ochreous overlay.
    B. chapmani subapical 1 or none. darker.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...d83d5b71-2.jpg


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    Thank you so much Dr. Seow.

    Based on your earlier coaching, I made an informed guess this time.
    Regards gkbaliga

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