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    Default Nacaduba spp.

    Here's what i think is N. kurava nemana. Thoughts?

    Nacaduba kurava best cropped resized-min.jpg
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    These i think are all female N. berenice icena

    These first two are the same individual
    Nacaduba best 1 cropped resized-min.jpg

    Nacaduba best 1 dorsal cropped resized.jpg

    This is another individual
    Nacaduba best 2 cropped resized-min.jpg
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    Post 1.
    Concur it is N. kurava male.

    Post 2.
    1 is N. berenice female /Upperside pale blue.

    2. is a bit dificult.
    It could be N. calauria as the submarginal spots 4 & 5 are pointed on both wings.
    An upperside shot may help.
    The variation in N. calauria here is not known.

    Tentatively I will leave it as N. berenice female.

    TL Seow:Cheers.

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    Thx for the confirmation Dr Seow. Unfortunately that is the only view that i have of the 2nd individual.
    I don't know if berenice and calauria are found in the same localities
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    Here's two shots of what i think is berenice from the curvature of the post-discal band on the forewing.

    I have one or two which i think might be calauria. I find berenice and calauria very difficult to separate



    Nacaduba berenice best cropped resized-min.jpg
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    Post 5.
    1 pair N. berenice male L, female R.

    2 male. This is very difficult.
    The pointed submarginal spots 4 & 5 says calauria, but the broken postdiscal says berenice.
    It may be a hybrid.
    It is difficult to compare with images from other region eg in Australia berenice have all the submarginals sharp-pointed.

    Here are some examples from Singapore.

    N. berenice
    Males.
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_0EK80AsaR7...-Line-Blue.jpg
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...obby%20Mun.jpg
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-JiwYoYOjqZ...nice+icena.jpg
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YBJZ0bsb0t...2Bberenice.jpg
    females.
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...Sunny-Chir.jpg
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5251/5...dc79f98942.jpg
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-xFQx2YUBf8...nice+icena.jpg
    https://www.nss.org.sg/butterflies_l...php?spc_id=740

    As none of the definitive male or female have FW spot 4 & 5 sharply pointed, it strongly suggest your no. 2 should be a male N. calauria variant in which the postdiscal is dislocated in the middle.


    N. calauria.
    Definitive male Note upperside dark violet.
    https://wanderingbutterflyeffect.fil...b3ad98860e.jpg
    others
    http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5788/...c204e4f1_b.jpg
    male on L.
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...enry%20Koh.jpg
    females.
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...yica---2--.jpg
    http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1271/...65181a03d4.jpg
    Note in both male & female N. calauria FW submarginal spots 4 & 5 always have a very sharp point.

    Females. N. kurava. FW postdiscal almost always straight & submarginals with rounded margins.
    https://wanderingbutterflyeffect.fil...b787da0005.jpg
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_0EK80AsaR7...acaduba-sp.jpg


    TL Seow: Cheers.

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    Thanks Dr Seow for your insights. I'd hate to complicate matters, but could it be possible that berenice might occasionally have more pointed striae in spaces 4 and 5 like this?

    Here are two more- the first i'm very certain is a female calauria based on the points discussed. The second is a male and i'm less certain but i think it's a male calauria even though striae 4 and 5 are less pointed. This was the only decent shot i could manage:/





    Nacaduba cropped edited resized-min.jpg
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