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    Default Request help with ID of skipper

    Photographed at Doi Phu Kha, n Thailand. Spent considerable time on this one, but not able to find anything like it. Thoressa or Sovia would seem the closest.
    Request help please.

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    The unmarked HW & pale area on the antenna indicate Caltoris.
    There are two FW cellspots & the underside HW is rather dark brown.

    This rule out species without cellspots ie plebeia, malaya, tulsi, kumara, philippina, .
    Of the followig with cellspots (one or two), thye following can be eliminated.
    C. cormasa ;UnHW deep red brown.
    C. brunnea ;FW with a brand' HWUn dark purple brown.
    C. bromus :HWUn. overlaid with ochreous scales.
    C. sirius sirius; FW usually with a spot 1b. Evans state of ssp sirius UnHW chocolate : Eliot state of ssp fusca UnHW ochreous.
    C. tenuis : Greenish yellow hair & UnHW with greenish yellow scales.
    C. aurociliata ; cilia of both wings bright yellow.

    This leaves two possibilities.

    1. C. cahira austeni; UnHW overlaid with dark chocolate (may be paler).
    https://www.thaibutterflies.com/wp-c...a-1080x720.jpg
    https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/C...cahira-austeni


    2. C. confusa. Evans states this is darker (than bromus) usually with reduced markings particularly in the absence of the upper cellspot & the spot in space 3 (spot 3)(Possibly Evans meant spot 4)


    Since this is fully spotted it is probably Caltoris cahira austeni. Correction: FW spot 4 is absent.


    TL Seow: CHeers.
    PS. This seem more likely to be Caltoris confusa.
    1. The spot in space 4 (spot 4) is missing. Upper FW cellspot very small.
    2. The underside is not uniformly dark brown as in C. cahira.

    Caltoris confusa . male ,Ataran valley, Myanmar. Fig. 19 & 20 .
    https://www.zobodat.at/pdf/Atalanta_42_0193-0200.pdf
    Last edited by Psyche; 02-Apr-2018 at 11:16 AM. Reason: clarification

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    Many thanks for the detailed reply and especially the link to the detailed paper - very useful.
    As usual with these skippers it's important to first be able to identify the genus.
    Something that certainly takes time to learn from experience.

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