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    Quote Originally Posted by atronox View Post
    Shouldn't the last Lycaenid be Ticherra acte? C. freja isn't so orange. The white spots seem aberrant
    Quite right.
    I didn't realised there is a dsf with spottings on the underside.
    http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sp/684/Ticherra-acte

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    Thx a lot to both of you

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    Post 13.

    1 Catochrysops panormus
    http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/med...6e67f80c-1.jpg

    2. Cheritra freja.
    http://www.learnaboutbutterflies.com...08052-001a.jpg


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    Nacaduba is N. beroe gythion from the absence of the most basal costal spot on the forewing.

    The Jamides are dsfs of J. celeno
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    Thx alot to both of you! The first ones of the next batch I think I got right:

    Hypolycaena othona ssp. othona
    Hypolycaena othona ssp. othona - Chiang Dao_20180205_1137_DSC_8193_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr

    Hypolycaena erylys ssp. himavantus
    Hypolycaena erylys ssp. himavantus - Chiang Dao_20180205_1139_DSC_8204_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr

    Hypolycaena amasa ssp. amasa

    Hypolycaena amasa ssp. amasa - Chiang Dao_20180205_1310_DSC_8380_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr

    Heliophorus I think Heliophorus epicles ssp. latilimbata
    Heliophorus epicles ssp. latilimbata - Ban Thaton_20180128_1237_DSC_6402_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr

    Curetis acuta ssp. dentata
    Curetis acuta ssp. dentata - Namtok Monta Tan_20180212_116DSC_9354_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr

    Cigaritis lohita ssp. himalayanus or is it another Cigaritis
    Cigaritis lohita ssp. himalayanus - Namtok Monta Tan_20180212_104DSC_9369_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr

    This one I have no idea...
    Chiang Dao_20180203_1426_DSC_7830_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr
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    Last lycaenid is Una usta usta
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    Post 13.

    3 should be Ionolyce helicon .There is a perspective distortion which makes the FWs short.
    The FW postdiscal band is serially dislocated which is not seen in Nacaduba.
    https://static.inaturalist.org/photo...jpg?1444964886
    Female Singapore
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6y12N-hHpl...e-HoraceT2.jpg
    Thailand.
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-H03HQ8Y2p8...2B-%2B0609.jpg
    Nacaduba beroe Thailand.
    https://www.thaibutterflies.com/wp-c...e-1080x720.jpg


    4. The two Niphanda asialis & tesselata are very similar on the underside. The antenna is more gradual in tesselata & more abruptly clubbed in asialis but is very hard to judge.
    Typical asialis have lighter spots but again variable.

    N. asialis. The broad dark upperside FW border ID'ed it as N. asialis
    http://www.dnp.go.th/FOREMIC/NForemi...9%88%20(3).jpg
    http://www.dnp.go.th/FOREMIC/NForemi...9%88%20(4).jpg
    https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8623/...944ceae3_c.jpg

    N. tesselata. The narrow border ID'ed the male tesselata.
    http://www.samuibutterflies.com/expe...ndatessellata/

    As N. tesselata is much the commoner of the two in Malaya the situation may be the same in Thailand.
    It is very difficult to tell at the moment.

    5 & 6 dsf J. celeno is right.
    In dsf J celeno has the FW submarginal band intact whereas this is broken into spots in J. pura.
    http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sp/556/Jamides-celeno
    http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sp/920/Jamides-pura


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    4. H. epicles latilimbata.
    This is very similar to H. ila nolus.
    The FW submarginal white spots tend to be lunulate (curved) & the HW black triangular spots larger in H. epicles.
    India.
    http://www.learnaboutbutterflies.com...09767-001a.jpg
    http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/med...unte_ai827.jpg

    H. ila Thailand. FW white spots liner & HW black spots reduced.
    https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/H...CC_3043to4.jpg


    5.C. acuta dentata have very angular wings.

    6.Two species are very confusing.
    Eliot states in C. seliga HW orange patch have a sharp extension in space 1b ;UN FW marginal pale narrow band obliterated or heavily sullied.
    In C. lohita orange patch rounded & Un FW pale band clear.
    Compare the marginal pale bands on the FW & HW . Note on FW the band is almost obscured.

    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4/82890001.html
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4/82890010.html

    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4/82880020.html
    Note ssp senama does not extend into central Thailand.
    This suggest all below are correct as ssp himalayanus.
    https://wingscales.com/Lycaenidae/Ci...ta-himalayanus
    Note FW marginal pale band is intact.

    This confusingly appears to be C. seliga from upper& undersides.
    https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/C...sMUpUnRDK1.jpg
    The orange patch in lohita is more rounded.
    http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/med...gale_aa959.jpg

    I think 6 has to be C. seliga as Yutaka's examples of seliga all show UnFW marginal pale band obscured.

    Currently I think the genus name is back to Spindasis.

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    Surprising that it's actually an Ionolyce. I was looking at wing shape too but decided there can't be any distortion because every part is more or less in focus(i.e. camera was parallel, so very little difference in focal length at any point) so i went with Nacaduba. If it's really Ionolyce then it's a very strange shape, even if it's female(female I. helicon have very convex forewings so that the distal edge of the forewing sticks out slightly further than the distal edge of the hindwing; which is not the case here).

    Doesn't I. helicon always have the spot in space 3 of the post-discal series out of line with the one above it in space 4 whereas they are in line in Nacaduba? I've seen pics of N. beroe with varying degrees of dislocation of the post-discals like this so i'm really not sure how to interpret that. (The last one in the link looks almost like I. helicon actually)
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