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    Default Mycalesis minius?

    From Doi Suthep, where this species (whatever it is) was common at lower elevations.
    I realise Mycalesis ID is a nightmare, but having so many in my collection it's about time to try to straighten them out. A baseline of some correctly ID ones would help, especially for the common ones.

    I think I would make these either M. perseus or M. minius, but favour the later based on the rather large ocellus in the forewing and the second inner discal band on the forewing being quite wide, though no doubt these features are variable!

    Any links to articles on Mycalesis ID? Not found much at all in web searching.

    Many thanks.

    Unidentified bb - Doi Suthep 01.JPG

    Unide Bb.JPG
    Last edited by DaveChiangMai; 19-Jun-2017 at 10:46 AM. Reason: Add another photo

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    Since they are both taken in the north they have to be Mycalesis intermedia which is common in Thailand.

    Two species are near identical & M. distanti was formerly a ssp of M. intermedia ie as M. intermedia distanti.

    M. intermedia :range ;much of continental SE Asia.
    Wings with strong merging white shadings; FW 2 spots, spot 2 very large ;HW inner margins form deep indentation in space 4 & 5.White band not angled in at top.
    https://www.thaibugs.com/wp-content/...is-Interme.jpg
    http://wingscales.com/content/record/395-1-d2344.jpg
    http://www.dispar.org/images/upload/...008-Sep-13.jpg

    M. distanti range S. Thailand & Malaya; very similar but indentation in space 4 & 5 less deep ;white band usually strongly angled in at top.
    http://photobucket.com/gallery/user/...NTQ5NDU=/?ref=

    Others can be very similar.
    M.
    visala
    ; widespread ; Wings with heavy shading, merging ;spots smaller ; HW indentation wider ,shallow & regular.
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...obby%20Mun.jpg
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-V3Jt9MMLrw...2BDSC_3771.jpg
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...0Ben%20Jin.jpg

    M. perseoides.White merging shadings; HW inner margins of ocelli forms very irregular, jagged indentation ;dark line forms a 'tooth' at lower end.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jx3Ps1jjyS..._adult_03Y.jpg
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...20-%20Khew.jpg

    Mycalesis mineus.; ocelli not heavily white shaded; FW 2 spots; HW indentation deep in space 4 & 5.;lower 4 spots well in line.
    http://wingscales.com/content/record/396-1-d239b.jpg
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-j1wigN6Ig7...lt_Loke_02.jpg

    M. perseus. no heavy white shading; FW ocelli usually in anarc;HW indentation wide bowl-like; lower 4 spots not aligned, spots 2 & 3 out of line with the 2 space 1b spots.
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...20-%20Khew.jpg
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...20-%20Khew.jpg

    Many species can be seen here.
    http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/#!/tx/444-Mycalesis

    TL Seow: Cheers.

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    Thank you. Very useful.

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