Which Erionota?

[JitLeangFoo]

What about this - E.torus or E.hiraca? This is a wild specimen recorded yesterday.
Torus.jpg

[Psyche]

Post 3.
Male Erionota acroleuca (= hiraca )

Underside HW dark contrasted ,speckled .The upper half narrowing of the band less obvious.
FW outer margin lower 2/3 straight.
Antennal club broadly white above.
Two males & 2 females.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-p2SDDi_BlE...2Bapicalis.jpg
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...0-%20sunny.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-BTL8Ck0uBE..._female_04.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-oGOIfwCnqF..._female_01.jpg


E. torus.
HW underside less dark contrasted & may have a washout appearance; HW band relatively broad throughtout.
FW outer margin (termen) convex from the apex downwards.
Antennal club in mae about 3/4 white above.
2 males & 2 females.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...-06-10-001.jpg
http://www.nbair.res.in/insectpests/...ta-torus20.jpg
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...2012--0882.jpg
http://www.dnp.go.th/FOREMIC/NForemi...orus%20(1).JPG


E. thrax 2 males & 3 females.
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/med...553af268-1.jpg
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...20-%20Khew.jpg
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8369/...9fa0b6bb_b.jpg
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/med...unte_ag436.jpg
http://www.samuibutterflies.com/02_i.../underside.jpg


The three species can be very similar.
It had been stated that all records of Erionota on palms are probably E. acroleuca (hiraca) & E. torus & thrax probably feed only on Musa (banana).
Past misidentification have cause all the confusion.
The sdame authors state that palm leaves are unsuitable for the leaf rolling habit of E thrax & torus.

However, your post 1 female looks typically E. torus & may be a first record on palm.
If you can rear a pair it should clear all doubts regarding the species & hostplant.

TL Seow: Cheers.

[JitLeangFoo]

Thanks Dr Seow. I will look out for more caterpillars.

Yes, the leaf shelter is different from the E.hiraca that I have raised before.

[JitLeangFoo]

Found and raised two caterpillars feeding on MacAuthur Palm. Think they are E.acroleuca.
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[Psyche]

Post 6.

Yes, this is typical E. acroleuca.

TL Seow: Cheers.

[JitLeangFoo]

Last week I found 3 pupae on my banana.

This is E.thrax as the forewing termen is straight.
BananaSkipper 201907110044.JPG

Would the termen for these two be convex enough for them to be E.torus?
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[Psyche]

Post 8.

Perfect. You have E. thrax & 2 E. torus.
Strangely they are all females. (antennal club half white).

TL Seow: Cheers.