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    Default Potanthus for ID

    Dr Seow, the markings on this fella appears strange. An aberration or just darker markings on some ​Potanthus sp?
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    The HW spot 7 indicate it is a Potanthus .
    Unfortunately Potanthus is extremely diificult to ID on pix.

    This male have a broad adominal end black band.

    This effectively eliminates these below. There are other features which aid the eliminations.
    Potanthus omaha ,ganda, confucius .
    eg. P. confucius.
    http://wingscales.com/content/record/514-1-f6975.jpg
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-HbP5kenLKN...us%2Bsp%2B.jpg
    P. omaha.
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...obby%20Mun.jpg
    P. ganda.
    http://m8.i.pbase.com/g9/25/686825/2...8.SFW0w8hz.jpg


    The others have the male with a broad black band.

    P. trachala .very close but FW spots 4&5 without overlaps above & below.
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kvlAhJLLsd...la-tytleri.jpg
    P. serina distinctive appearance.
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...serina-KSK.jpg
    P. juno. FW 2 subapical spots; spot 4 larger than spot 5.
    https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4053/4...047e4a9a80.jpg
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WroJpPq0U...Dart-KohCH.jpg
    P. lydia. Underside poorly dark shaded ;abdominal end often wholly black. Usually montane.
    http://www.samuibutterflies.com/02_i...huslydia.r.jpg
    http://www.samuibutterflies.com/02_i...huslydia.v.jpg
    P. palnia .Underside greenish yellow dark shaded ;no black spot ;spot 4 larger than spot 5.Range India to SE Asia & Sumatra.
    https://farm1.static.flickr.com/525/...177d7fd6_b.jpg


    This leaves the two most likely.

    1 . Potamthus mingo. Underside HW spot 2 & 3 with outer margins strongly concave; often with dark shading & spots.
    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-f3wB2A2ujB...0/_MG_1531.jpg

    This below from Pulau Semakau is similar but with less black shadings.
    http://s20.photobucket.com/user/wong...ipper.jpg.html
    (This can not be P. flavus which is strongly greenish ochreous. with HW spot 7 small , twice the size & largely temperate & subtropical.
    examples of P. flavus.
    http://www9.plala.or.jp/tokyoinsects/kimadarasese2.JPG
    https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4098/...5e261eb1_b.jpg )

    2. Potanthus pseudomaesa . India to SE Asia & China.

    P. pseudomaesa pseudomaesa :South & central India; Less overlap between spot 5 & 6.
    http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/med...1a69905b-4.jpg

    P. pseudomaesa clio. more overlap between spot 5 & 6 on the underside; NE India to southern China.(Note amount of overlap always more on the underside)
    Male. India.
    https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4065/4...c221a6eca8.jpg
    Male HK.
    https://farm6.static.flickr.com/5346...c8d11786_b.jpg
    http://s3.amazonaws.com/img.tnt/a3a8...8f9/a441_l.jpg
    Feamale HK.
    https://farm8.static.flickr.com/7290...483f7a2c_b.jpg
    https://farm6.static.flickr.com/5332...66333815_b.jpg



    I think it is a variant of P. mingo as the outer margins of HW spots 2 & 3 are more roundly concave.

    It looks almost identical to P. pseudomaesa clio though.


    TL Seow : Cheers.
    Last edited by Psyche; 01-Mar-2017 at 06:22 PM. Reason: typo

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    Thanks for the detailed analysis, Seow. Looks like we'll need to capture some of these strange ones as voucher specimens for further scrutiny.
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