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    Default Rapala dieneces/suffusa

    I believe this is R. dieneces from the slightly scalloped post-discal band(more or less straight in suffusa).
    R. damona is probably very unlikely.

    Rapala dieneces edited-min.jpg

    Taken in USR sometime ago.
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    Agreed it should be R. dieneces.
    The three species are very similar on the underside & easily confused.
    eg The extent of the HW orange area indicates this one below is R dieneces.
    https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/R...naMUpUnAC1.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyche View Post
    Agreed it should be R. dieneces.
    The three species are very similar on the underside & easily confused.
    eg The extent of the HW orange area indicates this one below is R dieneces.
    https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/R...naMUpUnAC1.jpg

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    Two old shots taken from a distance. This should be a female R. dieneces right?



    Rapala best 2 cropped.jpg
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    It should be R. dieneces.
    Rather worn.
    There is no suggestion it could be something else.

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    Thanks Dr Seow
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    Here are a few more Rapala which i think are dieneces but variation makes things confusing

    Rapala best cropped edited resized-min.jpg

    Rapala best cropped edited flipped resized-min.jpg

    Rapala best cropped edited flipped resized-min (1).jpg

    And one more taken from very far which i think is a male suffusa from the yellow smudge at the tornal area
    Rapala cropped edited resized.jpg


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    Post 7.

    The first three are R. dieneces females.
    The last from its colour also looks to be R. dieneces female as the female of R. suffusa is yellow & has a strongly curved FW band.

    There are many variations & uncertainty as the upperside is not available.
    It is easier to show the definitive pix. All from Singapore.

    R. dieneces :FW band/line fairly straight or slightly curved ;HW with orange crown more prominent.
    Male & female.
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Nq8JtCdenz...rlet+Flash.jpg
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...20-%20Chng.jpg
    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...VxAb_ucQPyait1


    R. suffusa ;FW band curved/bent towards the costa ; HW orange crown yellow & indistinct. female yellow.
    Males.
    https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4188/3...7742bda1_c.jpg
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7376/9...452d3eda_b.jpg
    Females.
    http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3301/...126294c2e6.jpg
    http://a4.pbase.com/g9/25/686825/2/1...5.sRe8z1wO.jpg
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...Sunny-Chir.jpg


    R. damona: FW band curved/bent towards costa ;deep ochreous brown colour ;orange crown not prominent.
    https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4683/...dd77b589_c.jpg
    https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4600/...0662737f_c.jpg
    Probable female (ID'ed as suffusa in the past)
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-66Xxi-yYPL...ash-SunnyC.png
    Malaya ? female damona
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OIla6IU3aB...0/DSC_0300.JPG

    Others.
    ID'ed as female R. dienecs.
    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...Sxgo86lWSC9gYO
    ID'ed as female dieneces . Probably female R. damona.
    https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2891/3...8ecd103c_c.jpg

    Id'ed as male R. suffusa.
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-KIPhHY0XrS...+dieneces).jpg

    ID'ed as male R.dieneces; Probably male R. damona.
    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...BNIkv8ogyzx3Cx


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    Last edited by Psyche; 05-Jan-2019 at 08:27 PM. Reason: clarification

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    Thx Dr Seow. The straight forewing band seems consistent in dieneces
    Aaron Soh

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