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    Default Moths from Northern Thailand

    I have a (somewhat large) number of moths that need IDs. I hope someone can help with some of them, I have tried to find IDs myself and some therefore need confirmations or corrections instead

    Here are first the Arctiinae, Ctenuchinae and Aganainae.

    The first I thought should be an arctiine, but I can not find any match in MoT vol 6.

    Thaton2015_08_27_09_36_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr

    Syntomoides imaon or?

    Syntomoides imaon - Fang Hot Springs2015_08_29_09_28_03_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr

    This one I am pretty sure is Nyctemera coleta:

    Nyctemera coleta - Wat Tham Tub Tao2015_08_28_11_27_06_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr

    This one must be Neoduma kuangtungensis:

    Neoduma kuangtungensis - Thaton2015_08_27_09_39_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr

    Here I am betting on Neochera dominia:

    Neochera dominia - Thaton2015_08_23_23_45_02_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr

    This should be Lyclene undulosa:

    Lyclene undulosa - Thaton2015_08_24_22_07_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr
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    This look similar to many of the species of Eugoa, but I can not find a species, that is spot on:

    Eugoa sp. - Thaton2015_08_26_07_01_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr

    This I believe to be Eressa confinis:

    Eressa confinis - Thaton2015_08_23_15_11_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr

    A Cyana sp. - there are several with 3 black dots, and can not find out what else to use as distingushing characters:

    Cyana sp. - Thaton2015_08_23_23_44_01_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr

    This I think looks a lot like Brunia sarawaka - so I hope that's what it is:

    Brunia sarawaka - Thaton2015_08_27_05_23_01_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr

    This is similar to Barsine cruciata, but maybe the two inner black lines should fuse near the front edge of the wing:

    Barsine cruciata - Thaton2015_08_28_05_13_01_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr

    This should be Asota producta:

    Asota producta - Thaton2015_08_26_09_23_01_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr

    and this Areas galactina:

    Areas galactina - Thaton2015_08_25_06_19_01_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr

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    Post 1.

    1. probably Noctuidae . some resemblance to the markings of Maliattha.

    2.Does not match the pattern of S. imaon.
    http://www.jpmoth.org/Arctiidae/Synt...des_imaon.html

    3. N. coleta is right.

    4. Neoduma also looks like N. ectozona.
    https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2295/2...f2e_z.jpg?zz=1

    5. Neochera dominia looks right although the FW usually has a pale area. Vein stripes typically widen at margin.
    http://insecta.pro/images/1024/21122.jpg

    6. Lyclene undulosa is right.
    http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/Digital...20undulosa.htm

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    1. Probably Nolidae.

    2. Looks correct to most websites.
    http://board2.trekkingthai.com/board...e2c4651942.jpg

    3. The pattern & position of the orange red bands match Cyana catorhoda.
    http://www.thaibugs.com/wp-content/g...0catorhoda.jpg

    4. Not sure what the difference is between females of Brunia antica & sarawaca.

    5. No match for this Barsine species

    6. Asota producta looks right.

    7. Areas galactina is right.

    TL Seow : Cheers.

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    Thx a lot Seow for all the confirmations, corrections and suggestions!

    1. Hmm. I can see some similarity - but nothing really close...

    2. Yes, I see that (now!) - but do you think genus i right?

    4. Yes, ectozona and kuangtungensis are very similar, but the small differences there are in illustrations and descriptions in MoT vol. 6 point to the latter in my opinion: Lower part of (outer) forwing band sharper in ectozona and more patterning on the inner half of wing in kuangtungensis. Do you disagree, or are you pointing out that ID'ing these two from photo simply is unreliable?

    best wishes and lots of thx

    Jan F. Rasmussen



    Quote Originally Posted by Psyche View Post
    Post 1.

    1. probably Noctuidae . some resemblance to the markings of Maliattha.

    2.Does not match the pattern of S. imaon.
    http://www.jpmoth.org/Arctiidae/Synt...des_imaon.html

    3. N. coleta is right.

    4. Neoduma also looks like N. ectozona.
    https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2295/2...f2e_z.jpg?zz=1

    5. Neochera dominia looks right although the FW usually has a pale area. Vein stripes typically widen at margin.
    http://insecta.pro/images/1024/21122.jpg

    6. Lyclene undulosa is right.
    http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/Digital...20undulosa.htm

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    1. You are probably right, though I cannot find a match among the 356 species of Nolidae treated in MoT vol 3, part 2. I may have overlooked it though, as the pics are quite small. The furriness even made me consider Lymantriinae, but I do not think so...

    3. Certainly very similar to your link, but the species is not among the 36 Cyana spp. in MoT vol. 6. Wikipedia says India and Burma, so it could easily occur in Northern Thailand (actually the border to Burma/Myanmar is just 2-3 km away from where I found it), but I wonder how certain the ID of your link is...

    4. I will let it be antica/sarawaka then

    5. Barsine sp. then

    Thx a lot again - more questions coming :-D

    Quote Originally Posted by Psyche View Post
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    1. Probably Nolidae.

    2. Looks correct to most websites.
    http://board2.trekkingthai.com/board...e2c4651942.jpg

    3. The pattern & position of the orange red bands match Cyana catorhoda.
    http://www.thaibugs.com/wp-content/g...0catorhoda.jpg

    4. Not sure what the difference is between females of Brunia antica & sarawaca.

    5. No match for this Barsine species

    6. Asota producta looks right.

    7. Areas galactina is right.

    TL Seow : Cheers.

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    Two Bombycidae, the first maybe an Ocinara sp., the second I have no idea:

    Thaton2015_08_23_23_44_04_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr

    Thaton2015_08_23_16_58_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr

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    Phalacra sp., Drepanidae?

    Thaton2015_08_27_05_23_01_DxO_2 by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr

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    Default Trabala sp., Lasiocampidae

    Trabala sp., Lasiocampidae

    Thaton2015_08_26_06_13_X by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr

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    Quote Originally Posted by guldsmed View Post

    2. Yes, I see that (now!) - but do you think genus i right?

    4. Yes, ectozona and kuangtungensis are very similar, but the small differences there are in illustrations and descriptions in MoT vol. 6 point to the latter in my opinion: Lower part of (outer) forwing band sharper in ectozona and more patterning on the inner half of wing in kuangtungensis. Do you disagree, or are you pointing out that ID'ing these two from photo simply is unreliable?



    Jan F. Rasmussen

    2. There is only one species in Syntomoides ie S. imaon. Others eg S godartii have been synonymised.
    This is also often labelled as S. imaon on the net .
    S. imaon ID'ed by Roger Kendrick.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/1305594

    Could be Ceryx which has an orange patch on the thorax.


    4. You are right it is N. kuangtungenssis.
    I didn't have the resources earlier to check this out since googling N. k. comes out blank , but Neochera alone provides a pic.
    https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...&iact=c&ictx=1

    The other two, can't see a match in Noctuidae or Nolidae.

    TL Seow : Cheers.

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