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    Default Chiang Dao, (Northern Thailand) March 2015

    We spent 2 or 3 days shooting at Chiang Dao.
    Let me begin with some shots.
    1. Cigaritis seliga or C. lohita?


    2. Which Heliophorus?


    3 and 4. Male Indian Fritillary (Argyreus hyperbius hyperbius)


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    5. The Dusky Bushblue ([I]Arhopala paraganesa[/I?


    6. Angled Sulfer (Dercas gobrias)


    7. Gerosis bhagava bhagava (The Common White Flat)


    8. Yellow Tinsel (Catapaecilma subochrea)

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    1.C. lohita.
    In seliga the black tornal spot is red-rimmed on the inside margin but this is often folded over.
    In addition, the male has the marginal areas sullied, & the HW submarginal band reaching the costa.
    http://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ci...aMFUpUnAC1.jpg

    2. H.eventa. FW cross band rather irregular & colour dingier.
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4/81510001.html

    5. A. paraganesa.

    6. Dercas verhuelli.
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/pie/20500010.html

    The sundainian form in peninsular Thailand & Sundaland are separated as D. gobrias.
    D. gobrias from Malaya.
    http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/89746760

    TL Seow

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    Fed, where did you photograph the Heliophorus species? H. eventa is only known in Thailand from the extreme top of Doi Pha Hom Pok, though it is expected to be found at the extreme top of Doi Lang as well.

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    This one, from the top of Doi Pha Hom Pok, should be H. evanta, but upperside is the only safe difference


    The Dusky Sapphire - ผีเสื้อขมิ้นกับปูนสีมัว

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    Lc Goh should have a good upperside of evanta

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    Les, I shot it at Chiang Dao "square"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peacock Royal View Post
    We spent 2 or 3 days shooting at Chiang Dao.
    Let me begin with some shots.


    2. Which Heliophorus?

    Admittedly an upperside is needed for confirmation, but this pix has a good probability to be H. eventa.
    Yutaka's male captured near the same area show two similar features.
    1 The FW band is strongly undulate.
    2. The HW red band's inner margin is less crenulate ,sullied & with the white lunules mostly obsolete.
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4/81510001.html

    There are examples of H. brahma mogoka which look similar.
    Below one which the FW band is slightly undulate & the HW band better defined.
    http://khaoyaim2.exblog.jp/22058258


    Post 4, Antonio pix is more typically H. brahma mogoka.
    In the 3rd similar species H. androcles all valid examples with upper confirmation has the FW band nearer the cellend though this is unlikely to be absolute.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sa...MunsiariUp.jpg
    http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ca...MunsiariUn.jpg
    (This gets very confusing : The website below shows androcles with extensive blue sheen, long HW red band, & underside FW band midway.)
    http://blog.goo.ne.jp/gooaojyun/c/68...6a10b373868e/1

    I 'm not sure of the underside of H. hybrida.
    Tytler described the upperside as brassy green & the HW red band narrower than in brahma.
    He suggest a possible hybrid of brahma & androcles.

    TL Seow
    Last edited by Psyche; 15-Apr-2015 at 06:06 PM. Reason: review

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    This is the upperside of the same Heliophorus, got at the top of Doi Pha Hom Pok (Picture by Lc Goh)

    evanta.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiud View Post
    This is the upperside of the same Heliophorus, got at the top of Doi Pha Hom Pok (Picture by Lc Goh)
    It would look like the FW band's undulation is a red herring.

    Then this observation is probably correct: The HW postdiscal band is strongly undulate in eventa & usually straight in brahma.

    H. eventa from China.
    http://www.douban.com/note/188147811/

    H. brahma mogoka Thailand.
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_...n/15907565886/
    An example of brahma with the HW band undulate but not strongly.
    http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/med...e737f775-1.jpg

    TL Seow: Cheers.

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