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    Quote Originally Posted by horace2264 View Post
    Khew, I found the thread in 2011 in which you posted the pic above, and Dr Seow already replied then that it was a Parnara apostata.
    Yes, I remember posting it then. And now we have a voucher specimen to prove it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commander View Post
    Not too long ago. This image was sent to me by Victor Hitchins, who shot it at the Dhoby Ghaut MRT station's garden on 6 Sep 2011. I didn't think too much about it then, but had filed it under a Parnara. Seow, what's your view of this fella?
    It definitely is good for P. apostata. It is noticeably darker & HW spots large.
    I remembered this was posted then.

    The upperside markings of Parnara are so alike that in worn specimens they would look identical.
    Helpful are the colour of the hairs & FW costa.

    Upperside of Suuny's P. bada.
    http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...2011--0386.jpg

    P. ganga.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7139/7...5b089b09_z.jpg

    P. apostata often appears almost black so the male ii Post 7 might possibly be P. ganga.
    http://www.samuibutterflies.com/02_i...raapostata.jpg

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    That P. apostata appearing almost black is likely due to the strongly back-lit condition (as evident in the over-exposed lantana flowers).
    Horace

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    Quote Originally Posted by horace2264 View Post
    That P. apostata appearing almost black is likely due to the strongly back-lit condition (as evident in the over-exposed lantana flowers).
    Concur with the observation.
    Les did have the specimen set & posted.
    It is still a much darker species than the other two.

    The presence of P. ganga remains unsubstantiated.


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    I found the revision on Parnara by Chiba & Eliot which can be downloaded from reference 1 below.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parnara

    Parnara bada Spots often reduced; HW with spots 2- 5 small & irregular often obsolete,( spot 6 may be present).
    Langkawi & Singapore.
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-r10tmE1ODK...rnara+bada.jpg
    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-FX2pIhZeZ4...us%2BSwift.jpg

    Parnara apostata. Spots large usually complete; neaarly always spot 6 present (underside).
    Malaya & HK (note spot 6 present & so could not be guttata or ganga.)
    http://nlliew66butterflies.blogspot....a-snellen.html
    http://www.pbase.com/dancy/image/84573956

    Parnara ganga : spots usually large, HW spot 6 absent.
    Langkawi
    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-GvFvEDi92e...parnara+sp.jpg

    I am afraid most of the posts are P. bada although they look very different.
    The exception is post 1 & 9 , the shot from Dolby Ghaut.
    These have large upperside HW spots suggesting P. ganga .

    TL Seow:Cheers.

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    Thanks, Dr Seow for sharing the updates on Parnara spp. and revised IDs for earlier posts.
    Horace

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    From the revised key Parnara apostata is out of the picture in Singapore.

    Two typical female P. bada are Sunny & Federick' shots.
    http://s35.photobucket.com/user/Schi...-0379.jpg.html
    http://s35.photobucket.com/user/Schi...-0386.jpg.html
    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-FX2pIhZeZ4...us%2BSwift.jpg

    The post 1 female looks so different from the two P. bada that it should be P. ganga.
    However, the post 7 female looks identical to post 1 except the HW spots are small & irregular suggesting P. bada.
    This gets very confusing.
    The more typical P. ganga with big spots is seen below. This lacks cellspots & HW spots 6 & so cannot be either P. guttata or apostata.
    http://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/Parnara-apostata

    TL Seow : Cheers.

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