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    Rapala pheretima is right.
    Note ther is an extra spot/bar in the FW cell (innermost).
    This is sometimes missing.

    A 2nd good clue is that the HW black spot always lack the orange ring.

    TL Seow

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    Thanks Dr Seow

    Best regards

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    Hi,

    Caltoris philippina philippina ??


    Caltoris philippina philippina Seletar by Ben Ee, on Flickr

    Thanks for advice.

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    It is a Caltoris malaya female.
    There is a faint FW upper cellspot.
    Two species here in which there is no FW cellspot.(The faint one here can be discounted.(occassional in C. malaya.)
    In C. philippina the FW is sharper & excavated (ie indented/ cut in) on the lower termen(outer margin).

    Caltoris malaya is probably not rare, just that it is rather difficult to ID with confidence from the underside alone.
    The extra spot in space 1b (lowermost) indicates a female.

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    Hi Dr Seow,

    Thanks for quick reply, still cannot get the IDs right yet. Always something new to learn.

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    Thanks Dr Seow,

    C malaya still not yet in S'pore Checklist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benee View Post
    Thanks Dr Seow,

    C malaya still not yet in S'pore Checklist.

    Ben Ee
    Not officially in, but the species had been bred in the past by both Horace & Ben Jin.
    eg. (size of spots varies.)
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/showt...-of-2-Caltoris

    The Pelopidas Group of Skippers are all very similar on the upperside as well, so it is a good idea to get a shot of the underside HW.
    However, Borbo cinnara is browner & spots 2 & 3 are rather irregular.
    Parnara lack spot 1b in both sexes, & Polytremis & Pelopidas have cellspots.

    TL Seow

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    Hi Dr Seow,

    thanks for info, will try for all sides next time.

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    Hi,

    where to locate the scent fold for Common Bluebottle to id male/female ??

    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/98297153@N08/13797014794" title="Graphium sarpedon luctatius Common Bluebottle Seletar BG 120414 by Ben Ee, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3748/13797014794_45c8078820.jpg" width="500" height="458" alt="Graphium sarpedon luctatius Common Bluebottle Seletar BG 120414"></a>

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    The scent folds can only be seen on the upperside & that in a set specimen eg.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-b6TKYg69kv.../photo+1_1.JPG

    From the underside it is quite difficult.
    In the male the band is bluer, & the outer margin of the HW's uppermost big window is usually indented or concave.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5kk2ltkkoT...luebottles.jpg

    In the female the band is more strongly yellow-tinged, & the outer margin of the HW upermost big window is often slightly convex.
    http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c1...GMP_sz-642.jpg
    https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...33940917_n.jpg

    TL Seow

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