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    No. 8. Poeta quadrinotata. Erebidae, Erebinae, Catocalini.

    The FW mid-margin black spot is characteristic of Poeta.
    A 2nd smaller species P. denotalis have a 2nd mid margin black spot on the HW.
    http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-15...ousvi_22_1.php

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    Last edited by Psyche; 04-Jan-2014 at 05:31 PM. Reason: spelling error

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    No. 1. should be Arctornis plumbacea. Erebidae, subfamily Lymantriinae.

    I have thought all Arctornis are white & rest with wings flat, but the smaller ones rest as such.
    In this posture & angle of shot the wingshape is distorted & the FW apex appeared very rounded off.

    Although the image in MoB is low-res & poor, the description & colour matched well.
    http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-5/...ithini_1_6.php

    TL Seow :Cheers.
    PS. 5 is too difficult. 10,000+ spp. of Tortricidae.
    Note Clothes moths Tineidae have different headend & wingshape.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tineidae
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_clothes_moth
    Last edited by Psyche; 04-Jan-2014 at 07:23 PM. Reason: PS

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    Thanks Dr Seow for all the answers...

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    Default The Hippotion Quad.

    Four species of Hippotion are very similar & easily confused.

    H. echeclus. FW with outer & lower margins relatively straight ; abdomen with stronger gold band; FW pale band diffuse & dark band poor.
    http://tpittaway.tripod.com/china/h_ech.htm

    H. rafflesii. FW margins relatively straight ;abdomen ?stronger gold band: FW bands better defined, the dark band broader.
    http://tpittaway.tripod.com/china/h_raf.htm

    H. boerhaviae. FW with margins strongly convex(outer margin) or excavated(lower margin); abdomen bands poor; FW bands better defined, the dark band broad.
    http://tpittaway.tripod.com/china/h_boe.htm

    H. rosetta. FW with margins strongly convex /excavated; abdomen bands poor; FW bands lees well-defined, dark band narrow..
    There is a dark FW shading anteriorly but this also seem to be present to some extent in H. boerhaviae, though not stated as such.
    http://tpittaway.tripod.com/china/h_ros.htm
    http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-3/...gidae_29_5.php

    TL Seow
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    It is a very useful information...

    So, no. 3 is Hippotion rosetta right? At the first time, i though it is H. rafflesii or H. boerhaviae.
    - http://www.projectnoah.org/spottings/128266031

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanzz View Post
    It is a very useful information...

    So, no. 3 is Hippotion rosetta right? At the first time, i though it is H. rafflesii or H. boerhaviae.
    - http://www.projectnoah.org/spottings/128266031
    Yes it is H. rosetta.

    The two, H. echeclus & H. rafflesii can be discounted by their relatively straight outer & lower margins .

    H. rosetta & boerhaviae are readily confused.
    The FW margins of H. rosetta is stated to be more pronounced than H. boerhaviae, but very difficult to judge.
    Note the FW pale band (with several parallel lines) is poorly defined & the dark band is narrow, compared to that of H. boerhaviae.

    I included this clarification because I noticed someone have ID'ed it as H. boerhaviae on the website.

    TL Seow
    PS. An example of the confusion between H. rosetta & boerhaviae.
    This normally reliable Australian site have it wrong. The poorly defined FW bands & strong dark shading(not always present) are typical H. rosetta.
    http://lepidoptera.butterflyhouse.co...i/boerhav.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyche View Post
    No. 5. A Tortricid moth likely subfamily Olethreutinae.

    Here is a similar example.
    http://lepidoptera.butterflyhouse.co...micanella.html

    TL Seow:Cheers.
    agree with Olethreutinae
    looks like its in the tribe Eucosmini
    Roger C. KENDRICK Ph.D.

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